:-) Phil, in SIP I see common sense' seeds of software agents (!) that brought
me to this question. --Mikhail
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Henshaw
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] SIP & Complexit
Mikhail,
Well, changing natural scales in anything always seems to require developing
new models of explanation. Isn't that the problem?, that the proposition
is that we keep changing scales of complexity (regularly doubling) and the
concern is whether we can keep coming up with new models that work for the
physical systems that need to handle it? Isn't it possible that continually
multiplying complexity invalidates all models inherently, even more
fundamentally than just because of the dodgy human thought apparatus we're
stuck with?
When would complexity exceed SIP's range of explanatory scales? I've
always been concerned with the basic premise that the way to handle the wall of
complexity rapidly approaching is to accept that people won't be able to figure
things out so we should turn over the job of understanding the world to
self-organizing machines... ;-)
On 8/28/07, Mikhail Gorelkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just read Roger Sessions' article about SIP (
http://www.objectwatch.com/sip.htm ) as a part of his coming book "Controlling
Complexity in Enterprise Architectures". I completely agree with his point that
to deal successfully with complex software projects we need to recognize that
complexity itself is a challenging issue (control complexity or it will bury
you!), but it seems to me that all "modifications" of a common sense are not
enough to handle it. So, an essential question here is: is Complexity Theory
and the theory of Multi-Agent Systems is that framework which deals adequately
with the issue for ***mainstream (mostly, transactional!)*** software projects?
(All projects that you have been discussing here are simulations. Please pardon
me if I am wrong.) I am testing my imagination with a project which is going to
replace all messy (layered) projects of a middle size IT department. How can I
handle it without getting a new mess in a couple of years? [And critical things
here are adaptability / adaptivity and complexity.]
It would be nice to get your thoughts about it.
--Mikhail
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