Sorry, but my search for provocative exemplars of complexity to share with some folks not in the complexity-science tradition has already spun out of control.
Could people send me exemplars, or tell me where to find them. Thanks. NIck > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 4/8/2008 10:00:23 AM > Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 58, Issue 7 > > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [1st-mile-nm] Kicking the Internet up a notch > (David Breecker) > 2. Tiobe Programming Language Index (Owen Densmore) > 3. Re: Tiobe Programming Language Index (Russell Standish) > 4. Re: Tiobe Programming Language Index (Marcus G. Daniels) > 5. The quintessence of complexity thinking (Nicholas Thompson) > 6. Re: The quintessence of complexity thinking (glen e. p. ropella) > 7. Re: The quintessence of complexity thinking (Phil Henshaw) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:58:31 -0600 > From: David Breecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [1st-mile-nm] Kicking the Internet up a notch > To: Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <[email protected]>, 1st-Mile-NM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Back to Tom's original question: I'd like to propose that National > Lambda Rail, NM Lambda Rail, the NMCAC, the 1st Mile Institute, and > the Governor's Science and Technology Advisor would be an appropriate > ad hoc task force to see if and how The Grid could reach us here. > > If that makes sense, I'll volunteer for service. Thoughts? > db > > dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc. > Santa Fe: 505-690-2335 > Abiquiu: 505-685-4891 > www.BreeckerAssociates.com > > > > On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > > Finally! This is a good intro to what Don and I have been working on > > the last couple of weeks. The network is the computer .. wait .. Sun? > > > > Here's step one, the cloud: > > http://www.joyent.com/accelerator > > Basically we're tracing the newest "hosting" technologies, and believe > > me, they are changing at light speed. > > > > Cloud computing is a brilliant combination of hardware/server > > advancement .. where small fractions of a "blade" can have its own IP > > address, to software that "virtualizes" these fractions into dozens of > > "sites". And when I say "virtualize", I DEFINITELY do NOT mean VMWare > > or Parallels. I mean a fascinating combination of DNS stunts with > > name-based sub-servers on every "site". And yes, these services offer > > clustered systems so you can go from a fraction of a server to > > multiple servers. > > > > Basically Torrents are going to replace streams, and Virtual Servers > > are going to replace hosting services as we once knew them. Currently > > the torrent part is weakest, but we believe we'll see "torrent url's" > > soon .. stunts where the torrent technology will not be limited to > > file sharing, but will be a "transport" for any layer in the Internet. > > > > To be specific, Don and I have an architecture for hosting that > > includes two "computers" .. one the typical shared hosting service .. > > but with GREAT programmer oriented services, an the other a dedicated > > fraction of a "blade" (with root access).. which bursts up to the full > > blade, or can advance to clustered. > > > > Managing this is a "DNS Management Service" .. yet another web hosting > > service that lets some of the requests for our domain go to the shared > > system, and others to the shared .. i.e. a form of load balancing. > > And for storage, the service has a Network Storage System (Joyent > > Bingo Disks) that is completely scalable, and on a 100Mb pipe. All > > facilities interoperable. > > > > Managing all this is a fantastic web based administration package > > called Virtualmin .. virtual computing administration. And we can > > move our Virtualmin system from Joyent to Amazon (S3/EC2) in a day, > > with Virtualmin's migration facilities. > > > > Its not your father's internet any more! > > > > See these: > > http://www.joyent.com/ > > http://www.virtualmin.com/ > > https://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ > > > > So Tom, the answer to: > >> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the > >> U.S. -- > >> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? > > .. is very high if we in The Complex decide to work on this. The > > pieces are in place. > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > > > >> Let's see now: what are the odds we in New Mexico -- hell, in the > >> U.S. -- > >> will ever see a fraction of this in our home? > >> > >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece?print=ye s&randnum=1207538948023--- > >> > >> -- tj > >> > >> ========================================== > >> J. T. Johnson > >> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > >> www.analyticjournalism.com > >> 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > >> http://www.jtjohnson.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. > >> To change something, build a new model that makes the > >> existing model obsolete." > >> -- Buckminster Fuller > >> ========================================== > >> ============================================================ > >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 1st-mile-nm mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080407/0ce6e164 /attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:25:39 -0600 > From: Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FRIAM] Tiobe Programming Language Index > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Always fun to see the programming language index now and again: > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > Amazing to see VB is up 3.5%, while C++ is down .8% and Python is > moving up .7% .. and the big surprise for me with AJAX being such a > Big Thing is Javascript down quite a bit. > > Nice to see D doing well, still in the top 20, and actually at number > 12 already. > > Naturally, Java is still number 1, at 20.5%, up 2.17% over the year. > > -- Owen > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:31:28 +1000 > From: Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Tiobe Programming Language Index > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Looks like VB and PHP have overtaken C++ in third spot. But these > languages aren't really competitors of C++, which are really C#, Java > and to a certain extent C. > > D will probably be my next language, but it will probably need to get > way more popular before I make a switch to it :) > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 09:25:39PM -0600, Owen Densmore wrote: > > Always fun to see the programming language index now and again: > > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > > > Amazing to see VB is up 3.5%, while C++ is down .8% and Python is > > moving up .7% .. and the big surprise for me with AJAX being such a > > Big Thing is Javascript down quite a bit. > > > > Nice to see D doing well, still in the top 20, and actually at number > > 12 already. > > > > Naturally, Java is still number 1, at 20.5%, up 2.17% over the year. > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:33:13 -0600 > From: "Marcus G. Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Tiobe Programming Language Index > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Owen Densmore wrote: > > Naturally, Java is still number 1, at 20.5%, up 2.17% over the year. > > > But even Haskell has a better performance case. > > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:31:38 -0600 > From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > To: [email protected] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > All, > > Colleagues at my former institutution have asked me to provide a reading or other ...... representation .... that can be consumed in less than an hour that would give a sense of what it is "we" do in Friam, in Santa Fe, etc. Hopefully not words ABOUT it but an example OF it, if you see what I mean, but we might have to settle for words. If you had ONE SHOT at turning a colleague into a complexitist, what would you do with him/her. > > Does FRIAM have some suggestions???? > > A related question in my mind: if agent-based-models come closest to capturing the essense of complexity thinking, WHY? > > Discuss. I will collect your responses and forward them on to Worcester. > > Nick > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Research Associate, Redfish Group, Santa Fe, NM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080408/a7663305 /attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:33:11 -0700 > From: "glen e. p. ropella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > Colleagues at my former institutution have asked me to provide a > > reading or other ...... representation .... that can be consumed in > > less than an hour that would give a sense of what it is "we" do in > > Friam, in Santa Fe, etc. Hopefully not words ABOUT it but an example > > OF it, if you see what I mean, but we might have to settle for words. > > If you had ONE SHOT at turning a colleague into a complexitist, what > > would you do with him/her. > > I would probably sit down with them and play a couple tiling games, one > periodic and one aperiodic. Or if that were infeasible, I'd probably > set up some game-theoretic human-in-the-loop games. > > Anything involving collaborative (stigmergic) construction would be > good, especially if it usually produces counter-intuitive results. > > > A related question in my mind: if agent-based-models come closest to > > capturing the essense of complexity thinking, WHY? > > _If_ they do (and I'm not convinced they do with all the pitfalls of > modeling and simulation in the way), it is exactly because of the > potential for collaborative construction in ABSs. It's collaborative > construction that provides the umbrella for things like stigmergy, > scaffolding, co-evolution, implicit selection functions, dynamic > landscapes, and relatively easy demonstrations of interesting > generator-phenomena mappings. > > Of course, this focus on synthesis misses the other half of "complexity" > to some extent, patterns and analysis. Finding an inverse map from > phenomena to generator and the techniques involved is at least half of > the domain. And in this, the construction (especially modeling and > simulation) is just a cognitive aid. For the analysis half, ABM is NOT > the best way to capture complexity. For that, I'd say studying fractals > is the best way to get the point across. Cellular automata might be a > close second. > > - -- > glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com > Liberty is the only thing you can't have unless you give it to others. > - -- William Allen White > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFH+3QWpVJZMHoGoM8RAi1pAJ9xdWehcvjkhi5L0CVN6aAYOEJMdQCfbeW2 > 0ikrg1b0wmZOXt0Ln+DAMb4= > =jHTW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:58:05 -0400 > From: "Phil Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'The Friday Morning Applied > Complexity Coffee Group'" <[email protected]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Well, it would be hard for me to draw the picture of what the local Santa Fe > FRIAM community 'does', but it's often that a complex system retains it's > original concept and develops from that idea by addition and adjustment as > it grew. It may have reached a stable form or have a stability only of > wandering perhaps, and says a lot about it. Using that 'story form' is > one good way to describe a complex system that gives people a well ordered > ladder of both insights and open questions that they can then plug into as > they like. > > > > Phil > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Nicholas Thompson > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > > > > All, > > > > Colleagues at my former institutution have asked me to provide a reading or > other ...... representation .... that can be consumed in less than an hour > that would give a sense of what it is "we" do in Friam, in Santa Fe, etc. > Hopefully not words ABOUT it but an example OF it, if you see what I mean, > but we might have to settle for words. If you had ONE SHOT at turning a > colleague into a complexitist, what would you do with him/her. > > > > Does FRIAM have some suggestions???? > > > > A related question in my mind: if agent-based-models come closest to > capturing the essense of complexity thinking, WHY? > > > > Discuss. I will collect your responses and forward them on to Worcester. > > > > Nick > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Research Associate, Redfish Group, Santa Fe, NM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20080408/a4dbb020 /attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Friam mailing list > [email protected] > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > End of Friam Digest, Vol 58, Issue 7 > ************************************ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
