On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Günther Greindl <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> There are perfectly complete and and consistent axiomatic systems.
> (propositional calculus); heck, even the mega-expressive first order
> logic (see the completeness theorem).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completeness_theorem
>
> Incompleteness arises when you introduce arithmetic (robinson arithmetic
> suffices, presburger arithmetic not; in short: you need addition and
> multiplication in your arithmetic -> with this you can construct gödel
> numbers, define recursion, and get your (first) incompleteness theorem,
> from which second follows easily.
>

So, if we want computability, we dispense almost all the real numbers, but
if we want completeness, we dispense with all the numbers.

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