Let me add to the mix a book that was published more than fifty years ago by the social psychologist, Leon Festinger, called "When Prophecy Fails." Festinger was permitted to observe a doomsday cult (he told them who he was, and why he was there, and still they welcomed him) which believed that the world was coming to an end on a given date. Date came and went, no end of world. Did the cultists desert their cult? No, they told him they'd misinterpreted the signs, and that the end of the world would come on a later, though imminent, date. Lather, rinse, repeat. Certain members fell away after a while, but a solid core (the base?) kept on believing. Festinger had some interesting theories about cognitive dissonance and the persistence of belief in the face of contrary evidence. I've thought of this book often the last few months.

PMcC


On Nov 1, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Here you go, Owen.  I propose this example of a particular class of social dynamic to used as a case study for developing science-based explanations for human behavior patterns, rather than religious ones.  I believe there are possibilities with the first and second categories that you suggest below, and particularly the Central Limit Theorem.

This is an especially interesting study candidate, seeing how the many parts of the rest of the world are so *hugely* for stoning.  What's different about us?  And don't tell me Muslims are smarter than us, they aren't.  Different, yes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27484976/

--Doug

PS: No ranting about my bad spelling, please...

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
People: I'm thinking Freakonomics here.  Statistics.  Human behavior patterns.  You know, Science!

Thus far I've heard only rants on religion, stupidity, and probably bad spelling.

Is there *any* reason for the close vote (especially in the 2000 2004 2008 elections).

 Here are a few possibilities:
 - Parties form attractors.
 - Classism.
 - Single Issue voters.
 - Marketing to a tie.
 - The Central Limit Theorem.

This is especially interesting seeing how the rest of the world is so *hugely* for Obama.  What's different about us?  And don't tell me Europeans are smarter than us, they aren't.  Different, yes.  But they elect assholes as often as we do.

 I heard an interesting talk about how historians look at this:
http://radioopensource.org/a-longer-view-of-2008-historian-gordon- wood/ One of his points is that: "I think that all of these candidates will find that they have been carried along by forces that they can scarcely understand."

    -- Owen



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