And,... how does a poll, or a military analysis tell you what emotions are
going through people's minds?   That kind of clairvoyance is what you're
claiming, you know.   It seems to me a yes/no vote has insufficient variety
in comparison to thought, and a potential kill ration won't tell you if
going ahead will unusually piss people off.

Phil Henshaw  
NY NY  www.synapse9.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:35 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] models that bite back
> 
> Phil Henshaw writes:
> > A model invariably represents only a person's belief's about the
> world.
> >
> Consider surveys of undecided voters where during a debate the surveyed
> turn their individual dials to indicate approval or disapproval.
> > The physical subject being represented is both fabulously more
> complex than
> > any belief system can be,
> A library is fabulously more complex than most any individual's belief
> system as well.
> > and full of things that are differently organized
> > and requires it's own language of description.
> Military simulations, for example, are often large federated systems,
> where each part is designed by a different domain expert.  Some parts
> of
> the models could even be delegated to human decision makers, as in the
> voting example.
> 
> Complexity, subjectivity, and quantification are different issues.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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