On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Prof David West <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > Re: programming languages - antipathy to C++ > > Few questions seem to drive passions more than language choice - The reason for this is that people who program are woefully ignorant or misinformed about the majority of programming languages, so they pick the ones they know and like, defend them, promote them, and attack everything else. We shall always be woefully ignorant and misinformed about the majority of programming languages, and opinions rooted in ignorance and misinformation are never a great basis for dialogue. They are, however, a good basis for religious disagreements > > If you want to build Web apps: Ruby and Rails. > The first time I installed Ruby, it installed a windows registry that disabled my previous installation of Tcl/Tk, because Ruby wanted to use the version of Tk that it had hijacked as its user interface library. I sent Matz a nastygram and deleted the installation. The second time, with Rails, it was so slow that I couldn't believe anyone could use it. Googling the problem revealed that the whole world agreed, and none of the proposed solutions were worth anything. That's my 6 hours spent reviewing Ruby and Rails in a nutshell. How ignorant and misinformed is that? If you want to build "desktop" applications that are delivered via the > Web or a Cloud - you really need to evaluate GLASS at the Complex > workshop next month. That's a hard google: GLASS = Gemstone Linux Apache Seaside Smalltalk = http://seaside.gemstone.com which didn't appear on the first page of any search until I knew to include gemstone in the search terms. Why for desktop applications? It's presenting itself as a refactored LAMP (Linux Apache Mysql Php) stack? If you want infidel participation in a 4-1/2 day workshop you really need to make more of a case. -- rec --
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