Looking forward to it.  Do you have a schedule yet?

-tj

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Prof David West <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Tom and Nick,
>
> The GLASS workshop is the first of many - some will be shorter in
> duration, but all will be workshops where you have the opportunity to
> learn and immediately apply your knowledge to real software, not canned
> examples that some instructor wrote.
>
> Future offerings are dependent, to a degree, on proving that people will
> in fact sign-up and pay for the workshops.  The GLASS week will be test.
>
> Re: "why desktop" -- Web delivered software has generally lacked the
> sophistication, functionality, efficiency. and "bling" of desktop apps.
> To the extent that Web-services and Cloud computing really are the
> future, we need to be able to close the perceived gap with desktop apps.
>  I think that GLASS has promise, but I could be wrong.  I am really
> curious to see what the limitations might be when people at the Complex
> try to do what they do in their day jobs, with GLASS.
>
> davew
>
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:56:43 -0700, "Tom Johnson" <[email protected]>
> said:
> > And I, too, would pay to attend such a workshop.
> >
> > -tj
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Nick Frost <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 15, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> > >
> > >  That's a hard google: GLASS = Gemstone Linux Apache Seaside Smalltalk
> =
> > >> http://seaside.gemstone.com which didn't appear on the first page of
> any
> > >> search until I knew to include gemstone in the search terms.
> > >>
> > >> Why for desktop applications?  It's presenting itself as a refactored
> LAMP
> > >> (Linux Apache Mysql Php) stack?  If you want infidel participation in
> a
> > >> 4-1/2 day workshop you really need to make more of a case.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm thankful to Roger for helping me strike yet one more book off my
> wish
> > > list (Ruby Programming) as that will save a few pennies.
> > >
> > > Speaking from the neophyte point-of-view of someone who wouldn't dare
> call
> > > himself a programmer but as one who writes simple programs (mostly in
> BASH,
> > > PERL, and Python) I'm interested in the GLASS workshop merely for what
> more
> > > I might learn about programming in general.  Most of what I've written
> over
> > > the years is for systems administration (mostly in BASH) and I doubt
> I've
> > > written anything in my career or amateur experimentation over 500
> lines.  I
> > > don't know if there's a workshop series planned, but think it's safe to
> say
> > > I know more than one person who would be willing to pay for a 1-4 day
> > > computer programming workshop that covered coding topics (GLASS,
> Python, C,
> > > PERL, etc.).  I'd like to learn more about Python programming.  I don't
> know
> > > if there are enough like-minded people to make running such a workshop
> or
> > > series at the sfComplex worthwhile? For me my interest is as much in
> > > learning about the process and fundamentals than the language.    I
> just
> > > wonder how many people there are who, instead of plugging along blindly
> with
> > > O'Reilly books and writing small programs for specific projects, might
> like
> > > to take a class for a few days to learn from an expert or two.  I'm
> willing
> > > to wager that  a few people on the NMLUG and/or NMGLUG lists might be
> > > interested as well. Maybe the constituency is already being served by
> the
> > > CSF curriculum, but I think there might be working people who haven't
> time
> > > for a class but who would have time for a programming workshop.
> > >
> > > -Nick
> > >
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