Cornish pasties loomed large in my family legend: as a young man my father always went to Cornwall for holidays from grim Liverpool, where my family was situated. He loved to talk about the treat that Cornish pasties were. So when I finally visited Cornwall (as full of mines as Wales, and with probably an even longer tradition of mining, since the Romans bought Cornish tin) I had to try one.

Uhm, I see. Like egg creams and other fond treats of childhood, better in the memory than in reality.

And yes, rutabagas were known as swedes in our family. Like sweet potatoes? A stretch.

I shop at farmers' markets both in Santa Fe and in New York City (mine two blocks away from my home in New York City is open year round). But after you've exhausted the root veggies, pickings are mighty slim. When I visit the farmers' market in the San Francisco Ferry Building at any time of the year, I'm seized with such craven envy that my heart stops. This entire thread is to say that the self-righteous way Californians force upon us precepts about eating locally (yes, you, Alice) is surely well meant, but a sacrifice they don't personally have to make.

PMcC



On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Stephen Thompson wrote:

Gary is correct on the pron. and explanation of the pasty. The best ones are from a small restaurant in Virginia, MN on "da range" as they say. I understood these delectable treats actually started with the Welsh miners - something along the lines of the movie "How Green Was My Valley" (did I get the title correct?). And its been 32 years since I was in Virginia to eat one. The impression lasts....

Steph T

Gary Schiltz wrote:

You haven't lived until you've eaten a pasty (pronounced PAST EE, and not to be confused withthe minimalist apparel worn by certain "entertainers", so I've been told) on a -20 degree winter day in the upper great lakes region. One of the main ingredients is, of course, rutabaga. A pasty is sort of like a pot pie, folded over into a half moon shape. I've been told they originated with the miners of the region, as they were a complete meal that was easy to carry down into the mines. Some references: www.pastys.com, www.hu.mtu.edu/vup/pasty/recipes.htm . Mmm, make mine with gravy, eh?!

;; Gary

On Mar 28, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:



Pamela,

have never eaten a rutabaga. I have stood at the produce in Whole Foods and admired their fortitude, but i have actually never even knowingly MET a person who has consmued a rutabaga.

Are you prepared to introduce me to rutabaga's. A way of cooking them that makes them taste like pancakes with maple syrup, perhaps.

N



Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


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