Tap, tap. Is this thing on? I can't *believe*, what with the FRIAM list being what it is, that I am the only one to comment on the paper Robert pointed out.
This paper pushes (I thought) all of the FRIAM hot buttons: complexity, visualization, ABMs, methodology. I've come to realize that I'm not the only opinionated one around here. Was the paper so bad that I am the only one who nibbled? Or was it so good that I committed a horrible faux pas by speaking ill of it? Or, did Steve finally ban me from the list for all the horrible tuber puns? --Doug On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks, Robert. > > This part of the paper caused my bullshit detector to go off: > > *4.4* The classification of models is purely visual. It does not take into > account the particular phenomenon being explored by the model. In other > words, we did not consider the subject area or discipline of the model. Of > course, some visualizations in the same category share the same type of > phenomenon, but it is not unusual to find unrelated phenomena appearing in > the same category. This classification is not meant to be a rigid > comprehensive classification; on the contrary, it is meant to be an easily > understandable and flexible overview. Thus, the modeler should envision the > model that they eventually want to develop and then examine categories below > based on that conception, to find a starting point for the design of their > new visualization. > Without taking the into account the particular phenomenon being modeled, I > strongly suspect that the visualizations developed using this approach will > produce, no doubt, pretty colored groupings of splotches that unfortunately > convey little useful information about the actual problem domain. > > I'd be really curious to see what kind of results this viz design approach > would produce for an ABM that modeled the transmission of an infectious > disease with several distinct intermediate progression states in a city > with, say 9 million mobile inhabitants. What insights would the viz give > regarding contact patterns, super spreaders, demographic effects, possible > intervention strategies? > > Also, Figure 13 made me want to start drinking early today. > > Don't get me wrong: I like pretty colored splotches as much as the next > guy; I'd just prefer that my viz apps tell me something useful about my > particular application. > > I give the paper a 3.4 on the ten scale. > > --Doug > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Robert Holmes <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The "how to visualize ABMs" paper is particularly interesting >> http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/1.html >> >> -- Robert >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: <[email protected]> >> Date: Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:15 AM >> Subject: New issue of Journal of Artificial Societies and Social >> Simulation, vol. 12(2) >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> The Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation ( >> http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk) published issue 2 of Volume 12 on >> 31-Mar-2009. >> >> JASSS is an electronic, refereed journal devoted to the exploration and >> understanding of social processes by means of computer simulation. It is >> freely available, with no subscription. >> ================= >> >> In this issue, we have 9 reviews of recent books related to social >> simulation and complexity, as well as articles on design guidelines for ABM >> visualisation, a survey of ABM platforms, a proposal for a new way of >> modelling social networks, and models of consensus and occupational >> inheritance in China. >> >> =============================================================== >> Peer-reviewed Articles >> =============================================================== >> >> How Groups Can Foster Consensus: The Case of Local Cultures >> by Patrick Groeber, Frank Schweitzer and Kerstin Press >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/4.html> >> >> Agent-Based Simulation on Women's Role in a Family Line on Civil Service >> Examination in Chinese History >> by Chao Yang, Setsuya Kurahashi, Keiko Kurahashi, Isao Ono and Takao >> Terano >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/5.html> >> >> Social Circles: A Simple Structure for Agent-Based Social Network Models >> by Lynne Hamill and Nigel Gilbert >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/3.html> >> >> Design Guidelines for Agent Based Model Visualization >> by Daniel Kornhauser, Uri Wilensky and William Rand >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/1.html> >> >> =============================================================== >> Forum (Editor: Klaus G. Troitzsch) >> =============================================================== >> >> Tools of the Trade: A Survey of Various Agent Based Modeling Platforms >> by Cynthia Nikolai and Gregory Madey >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/2.html> >> >> =============================================================== >> Book Reviews (Review editor: Flaminio Squazzoni) >> =============================================================== >> >> Marco Castellani reviews: >> Reason and Rationality by Elster, Jon >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/castellani.html> >> >> Gennaro Di Tosto reviews: >> Artificial Psychology: The Quest for What It Means to Be Human by >> Friedenberg, Jay >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/di_tosto.html> >> >> Cristiano Castelfranchi reviews: >> Neuroeconomics: Decision Making and the Brain by Glimcher Paul W., >> Camerer Colin, Poldrack Russell, Fehr Ernst (Eds.) >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/castelfranchi.html> >> >> Károly Takács reviews: >> Social and Economic Networks by Jackson, Matthew O. >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/tak_aacute_cs.html> >> >> Domenico Delli Gatti reviews: >> Computational Macroeconomics for the Open Economy by Lim, G. C. and >> McNelis, Paul D. >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/delli_gatti.html> >> >> Julie Dugdale reviews: >> Honest Signals: How They Shape Our World (Bradford Books) by >> Pentland,(Sandy) Alex >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/dugdale.html> >> >> Francesca Giardini reviews: >> Computable Models of the Law (Lecture Notes in Computer Science / >> Lecture Notes in Artificial Intelligence) by Casanovas Pompeu, Sartor >> Giovanni, Casellas Núria, Rubino Rossella (Eds.) >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/giardini.html> >> >> Blake LeBaron reviews: >> Agent-Based Modeling: the Santa Fe Institute Artificial Stock Market >> Model Revisited (Lecture Notes in Economics and Mathematical Systems) by >> Ehrentreich, Norman >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/lebaron.html> >> >> Cesáreo Hernández-Iglesias reviews: >> Agent-Based Approaches in Economic and Social Complex Systems: V. 5 >> (Springer Series on Agent Based Social Systems) by Terano Takao, Kita >> Hajime, Takahashi Shingo, Deguchi Hiroshi (Eds.) >> < >> http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/12/2/reviews/hern_aacute_ndez-iglesias.html >> > >> >> =============================================================== >> >> The new issue can be accessed through the JASSS home page: < >> http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk>. >> >> The next issue will be published at the end of June 2009. >> >> Submissions are welcome: see < >> http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/admin/submit.html> >> >> If you would like to assist in refereeing submissions to JASSS, go to >> http://www.epress.ac.uk/JASSS/webforms/new_referee.php >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> JOURNAL OF ARTIFICIAL SOCIETIES AND SOCIAL SIMULATION >> <http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/> >> Editor: Nigel Gilbert, University of Surrey, UK >> Forum Editor: Klaus G. 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