On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Jack K. Horner wrote:
...That granted, if we are faced, as has been asserted, with a
choice of either philosophizing or "building things", here are some
challenges:
1. What are "things"?
Something that lasts. Ideas are fine. What is the philosophic
equivalent of a Ring?
2. Which "things" should we build and why?
Anything that lasts. So that it can be built upon.
3. Is knowledge/ABM/science possible without making
at least some presumptions (even if they are only
conventions) about meaning, logic, and perception?
Yes.
...
Bottom line: we can choose to ignore "philosophy", but we can't make
it go away.
Yes we can: we can ask that community to start a separate mail list.
It clearly is both popular and important. But not to the original
intent of Friam, which was to create a community of those interested
in SFI and applied complexity.
Let me be clear: philosophy is fine, we all participate in our own
personal brand of it to get through life. I none the less agree:
Please God No.
There is nothing at all wrong in building a new list, it happens all
the time that successful communities do so. If it would help, I can
construct it for folks needing it in case the philosophic excludes
network expertise. It would be, I think, based on the Philosophy of
Science, right? Its a commendable discourse. But not for me and many
of the Friam list.
-- Owen
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