Oh.  Sorry.  I got confused which side you are on.  so you agree that
Idealism is incoherent. 

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/




> [Original Message]
> From: russell standish <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group <[email protected]>
> Date: 9/18/2009 7:46:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Faith and Science (was comm.)
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:53:19PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> > Wait a minute!  They cannot call it a dilusion because "dilusion"
> > presupposes a state of affairs that IS -- i.e., a reality. 
>
> Yes, I would imagine that the people shouting illusion or delusion do
assume
> some different sort of reality. That was mostly my point - the term is
> ill defined, and not of much practical use AFAICS, except for fueling
> endless philosophical debates like this one.
>
> > 
> > N
> > 
> > Nicholas S. Thompson
> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
> > Clark University ([email protected])
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: russell standish <[email protected]>
> > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<[email protected]>
> > > Date: 9/18/2009 6:40:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Faith and Science (was comm.)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:02:00PM -0700, Miles Parker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure I understand -- why not simply start from experience
and 
> > > > awareness?
> > >
> > > Exactly. But then some people call that reality. Others call it
> > > delusion.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
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