Robert: Just to help untangle the discussion: Are you saying a theoretical grounding for Complexity .. or even just Modeling .. appears to have no concrete use for you?

To be even more specific: Chaos has at least one definition: divergence. It uses the Lyapunov exponent to define chaotic systems.

Thus would it be useful for you in a calculation to know whether it was inherently chaotic?

    -- Owen


On Oct 10, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Robert Holmes wrote:

What's the point of determining whether a phenomenon is emergent or not? What useful stuff can I actually do with that knowledge?

In other areas of my life, classification can have actionable consequences. For example, I can use the sophisticated pattern- matching algorithms and heuristics embedded in my brain to work out that the three animals wandering through my house can be categorized as "cats" and not "dogs". And that is useful, because it tells me that I should buy cat food and not dog food when I go to PetCo.

So what is an equivalent example with emergence? Once I've attached the "emergent" label to a phenomenon, then what?

-- Robert


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