John Dabiri is not a Caltech aerodynamicist, and has never published on wind 
energy, propellers or rotors.  My thesis was on wing theory at that institute, 
I taught there for many years, and have published many papers, monographs and 
bits of books on the subject of wind turbines, including a lot of stuff  on 
design of rotors and arrays.  I don't k now what he knows, but I do know 
sumpin!  But validity depends not on pedigrees but results! 



The article in Physics is pretty bad, for example, contrary to the author's 
statement,  prop turbines do not shed vortices, but annular vortex sheets, with 
a lotta turbulence, a very different animal, that I have often analyzed, tested 
and measured in wind tunnel and field. I was concerned at his naive statement 
that the power increases because the rotational speed increases.  It's 
elementary dynamics that this is not necessarily so.  The power is the product 
of speed and torque, and for many turbines the power reduc es as the rotational 
speed is increas ed!  In fact, in design studies, we often would feather, 
causing a unit to speed up and reduc e power output.  For example, a prop 
anemometer spins very fast, extracting no energy from the wind, at essentially 
zero torque (except bearing friction).  If it is braked by a motor, then the 
spin reduces as the power produc tion goes up. 


I dunno what John's paper is about, haven't read it.  It is always good when an 
outsider introduces a new idea into a field.  S o I'm looking forwards to 
hearing.  I am amazed at folks tenacity to an idea that they don't even 
understand!  But like the sound of, I presume!  I have no opinion on the 
subject, because I haven't seen the pap er. When I recei ve same, I'll discuss 
for Fria mers.   I don't want to waste folks' time on conjecture. 



Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures 

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