It is on the other hand important to note that google has a public exhibitionist side, trying to get us all to all hang out (if you are embarrassed you probably shouldn't be doing it see: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091208/0221047243.shtml). Here is a rant on the privacy issues of Buzz which looks huge. Social networking is putting people in the deep end of exposure without warning or careful thinking about the implications: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-10451428-256.html
We use a google groups e-mail list and as far as I recall zip files are not allowed and starlogo TNG text files end up with all of their <space> characters replaced with =20 which isn't helpful (i.e. it breaks the file). I'm sure this is the nature of the e-mail technology they are using but still isn't helpful. --joshua On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Josh, > > Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that. > > As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help > mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel > of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Joshua Thorp <jth...@redfish.com> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> >> Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives >> >> >> The android phone doesn't make the list? >> Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would > never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of > integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with > google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to > an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. >> >> I use: >> >> GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email >> Google Calendar: yes >> Google Maps: yes >> GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the > value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. > Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ >> Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. >> Google Youtube: of course. >> Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like > firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. >> Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. >> Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to make > web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google ecology > is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. >> Google Images: some. >> Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york > times... >> Google Shopping: what? never. >> Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? >> Google Scholar: rarely see books. >> Google Patents: never >> Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. >> Google Adsense: I've known those who do. >> Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to > picassa. >> Google Talk: seldom. >> Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. >> Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own > web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a > whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already > belonged there through Google Accounts. >> Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) > accounts otherwise confusion ensues. >> Google Maps API: haven't. >> Google Data API: haven't. >> Google Apps: haven't but may soon. >> Google Groups: mangles attachments. >> Google Code: as a consumer. >> Google Wave: looks like a splash. >> Google Finance: no. >> Android: brings them together. >> >> >> But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. > Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. > I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as > they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. >> >> Re: walled garden another google product: >> http://www.dataliberation.org/ >> >> >> --joshua >> >> GMail: >> Google Calendar: >> Google Maps: >> GoogleEarth: >> Google Translate: >> Google Youtube: >> Google Chrome browser: >> Blogspot.com: >> Google Docs: >> Google Images: >> Google News: >> Google Shopping: >> Google Books: >> Google Scholar: >> Google Patents: >> Google Sketchup: >> Google Adsense: >> Google Picassa: >> Google Talk: >> Google Chrome OS: >> Google App Engine: >> Google Accounts: >> Google Maps API: >> Google Data API: >> Google Apps: >> Google Groups: >> Google Code: >> Google Wave: >> Google Finance: >> >> >>> Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail >> >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. >>> GoogleEarth: Often. >>> Google Translate: Occasionally >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome browser: No. >>> Blogspot.com: Often. >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. >>> Google Images: Often >>> Google News: Some >>> Google Shopping: Some >>> Google Books: Some >>> Google Scholar: Some >>> Google Patents: Some >>> Google Sketchup: Some >>> Google Adsense: Never >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. >>> Google Talk: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome OS: No. >>> Google App Engine: Barely. >>> Google Maps API: Once. >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. >>> Google Apps: Not >>> Google Groups: Some. >>> Google Code: Only to download. >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. >> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> >>> Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very > integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do > I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. >>> >>> Me: >>> >>> Search: Always >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to > use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. >>> GoogleEarth: Often. >>> Google Translate: Occasionally >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome browser: No. >>> Blogspot.com: Often. >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. >>> Google Images: Often >>> Google News: Some >>> Google Shopping: Some >>> Google Books: Some >>> Google Scholar: Some >>> Google Patents: Some >>> Google Sketchup: Some >>> Google Adsense: Never >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. >>> Google Talk: Rarely. >>> Google Chrome OS: No. >>> Google App Engine: Barely. >>> Google Maps API: Once. >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. >>> Google Apps: Not >>> Google Groups: Some. >>> Google Code: Only to download. >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
