I'm amazed that no one has yet mentioned Google Sites. -- Russ Abbott _____________________________________________ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles Cell phone: 310-621-3805 o Check out my blog at http://russabbott.blogspot.com/
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Joshua Thorp <[email protected]> wrote: > It is on the other hand important to note that google has a public > exhibitionist side, trying to get us all to all hang out (if you are > embarrassed you probably shouldn't be doing it see: > http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091208/0221047243.shtml). Here is a > rant on the privacy issues of Buzz which looks huge. Social networking is > putting people in the deep end of exposure without warning or careful > thinking about the implications: > http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-10451428-256.html > > > We use a google groups e-mail list and as far as I recall zip files are not > allowed and starlogo TNG text files end up with all of their <space> > characters replaced with =20 which isn't helpful (i.e. it breaks the file). > I'm sure this is the nature of the e-mail technology they are using but > still isn't helpful. > > > --joshua > > On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > > Josh, > > > > Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that. > > > > As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help > > mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and > feel > > of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([email protected]) > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> > > http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > > > > > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Joshua Thorp <[email protected]> > >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > >> Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives > >> > >> > >> The android phone doesn't make the list? > >> Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would > > never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of > > integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with > > google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on > to > > an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. > >> > >> I use: > >> > >> GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email > >> Google Calendar: yes > >> Google Maps: yes > >> GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the > > value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. > > Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ > >> Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. > >> Google Youtube: of course. > >> Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like > > firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. > >> Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. > >> Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to > make > > web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google > ecology > > is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. > >> Google Images: some. > >> Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york > > times... > >> Google Shopping: what? never. > >> Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? > >> Google Scholar: rarely see books. > >> Google Patents: never > >> Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. > >> Google Adsense: I've known those who do. > >> Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto > to > > picassa. > >> Google Talk: seldom. > >> Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. > >> Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own > > web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a > > whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already > > belonged there through Google Accounts. > >> Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) > > accounts otherwise confusion ensues. > >> Google Maps API: haven't. > >> Google Data API: haven't. > >> Google Apps: haven't but may soon. > >> Google Groups: mangles attachments. > >> Google Code: as a consumer. > >> Google Wave: looks like a splash. > >> Google Finance: no. > >> Android: brings them together. > >> > >> > >> But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. > > Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles > innovation. > > I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and > as > > they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. > >> > >> Re: walled garden another google product: > >> http://www.dataliberation.org/ > >> > >> > >> --joshua > >> > >> GMail: > >> Google Calendar: > >> Google Maps: > >> GoogleEarth: > >> Google Translate: > >> Google Youtube: > >> Google Chrome browser: > >> Blogspot.com: > >> Google Docs: > >> Google Images: > >> Google News: > >> Google Shopping: > >> Google Books: > >> Google Scholar: > >> Google Patents: > >> Google Sketchup: > >> Google Adsense: > >> Google Picassa: > >> Google Talk: > >> Google Chrome OS: > >> Google App Engine: > >> Google Accounts: > >> Google Maps API: > >> Google Data API: > >> Google Apps: > >> Google Groups: > >> Google Code: > >> Google Wave: > >> Google Finance: > >> > >> > >>> Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail > >> > >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. > >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > >>> GoogleEarth: Often. > >>> Google Translate: Occasionally > >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. > >>> Google Chrome browser: No. > >>> Blogspot.com: Often. > >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > >>> Google Images: Often > >>> Google News: Some > >>> Google Shopping: Some > >>> Google Books: Some > >>> Google Scholar: Some > >>> Google Patents: Some > >>> Google Sketchup: Some > >>> Google Adsense: Never > >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. > >>> Google Talk: Rarely. > >>> Google Chrome OS: No. > >>> Google App Engine: Barely. > >>> Google Maps API: Once. > >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. > >>> Google Apps: Not > >>> Google Groups: Some. > >>> Google Code: Only to download. > >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. > >> > >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > >> > >>> Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very > > integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what > do > > I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. > >>> > >>> Me: > >>> > >>> Search: Always > >>> GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to > > use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). > >>> Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > >>> Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > >>> GoogleEarth: Often. > >>> Google Translate: Occasionally > >>> Google Youtube: Rarely. > >>> Google Chrome browser: No. > >>> Blogspot.com: Often. > >>> Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > >>> Google Images: Often > >>> Google News: Some > >>> Google Shopping: Some > >>> Google Books: Some > >>> Google Scholar: Some > >>> Google Patents: Some > >>> Google Sketchup: Some > >>> Google Adsense: Never > >>> Google Picassa: Rarely. > >>> Google Talk: Rarely. > >>> Google Chrome OS: No. > >>> Google App Engine: Barely. > >>> Google Maps API: Once. > >>> Google Data API: No but I want to. > >>> Google Apps: Not > >>> Google Groups: Some. > >>> Google Code: Only to download. > >>> Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > >>> Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, > > motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. > >>> > >>> ============================================================ > >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >> > >> > >> ============================================================ > >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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