Peter,

Always great to receive the benefits of your observations - and wisdom! I much enjoyed being reminded about Russell. I believe his heyday was likely in the first decade of the 20th cent - when mathematics was finally shaking its ensnarement by, and tight association with, the natural (especially the hard) sciences. With the advent of Lobachevskian and Riemannian Geometry (50?) years earlier, it was becoming clear that mathematics should be decoupled from science. And with the programs of Peano, Hilbert and others, it was becoming well-established that mathematics was to be developed from completely arbitrary postulate systems, and be damned with natural observation as far as abstract mathematics was concerned. We've been celebrating this declaration of independence of mathematics from physics ever since!

(Well. OK, you can still use mathematics with physics if you HAVE to  :-( )

Grant

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Discussions of the "meaning" of math are always interesting --- and revealing. When I was a student of math at Cambridge Bertrand Russell was still around, and much in evidence. He is supposed to have said, "Mathematics is a subject where you don't know what you are talking about, and don't care if what you say is true".

We smart-ass grad students thought that most entertaining. After all, the canonical example is: "Let x equal y". Most ordinary folks found the remark very annoying, which, I suspect, was mainly its purpose.

He is also alleged to have said, "People who discuss sex or mathematics usually don't practise it very well."
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