Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Russ is partly right.

1. The people involved mainly have a policy interest only--solving the problem of nuclear non-proliferation does not rule their lives. So their determination is based on a combination of professional (diplomatic, think tank. INGO, academic) interest, curiosity about how to step out of the box or collapse it (we introduce them to applied complexity), and a bit of altruism thrown in. 2. Yes. There are three meetings several months apart lasting two and 1/2 days, and the delegates are together all the time. Some of the best "open space" dialogue occurs at the dinner table, where in February our Iranian and Israeli delegates had a mesmerizing three-hour conversation.



Russ Abbott wrote:
I just read the "Two Stories" section of this page <http://www.openspaceworld.com/intro%20to%20pop.htm> (toward the bottom). It seems to me the two examples have these two features in common.

   1. The people involved have a real interest in solving the problem.
      For most of them, if the problem at issue is not resolved, their
      lives will be a lot worse. So most of them have a commitment to
      succeed.
   2. The even takes place over a number of days. That means that
      people are essentially forced to stay in contact with each other
      for that period.

-- Russ


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Russ Abbott <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I could no longer resist and went to the web page
    <http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm>.  The idea is
    that a group (of perhaps as many as 1000) people who have some
    common area of interest get together, set their own agenda
    (including perhaps subgroup meetings), and resolve their
    differences.  And it all happens automatically if no one pushes
    it. (Is that an unfair characterization?)

    I wish it were that simple. I find it very hard to believe.  If it
    were that simple, what is it that prevents all conflicts from
    being resolved in this way?  Why, for example, is our Congress so
    dysfunctional? It's true that they are far more structured than an
    Open Space meeting, but if they threw away all their rules, I
    doubt that things would be better.

    Here is what appears to be a key paragraph.

    The essential preconditions [to a successful Open Space event]
    are: 1) /A relatively safe nutrient environment/. 2) /High levels
    of diversity and complexity/ in terms of the elements to be
    self-organized. 3) /Living at the edge of chaos/, in a word
    nothing will happen if everything is sitting like a lump.4) /An
    inner drive towards improvement/, hence if you are an atom it
    would be useful to get together with another atom to become a
    molecule. 5) /Sparsity of connections /This one is a little hard
    to visualize and was a real surprise to me. Kaufmann is suggesting
    that self-organization will only occur if there are few prior
    connections between the elements, indeed he says no more than two.
    In retrospect, it seems to make sense. If everything is hardwired
    in advance how could it self organize?

    Many times when groups of people get together to work things out
    these conditions don't hold. (Imagine a meeting in a workplace,
    either corporate, academic, etc. in which there are some real
    disagreements about how to proceed and some real possibilities of
    gain or loss of power, resources, etc.)

       1. There may not be a relatively safe nutrient environment.
          Requiring that as a prerequisite is asking a lot.
       2. There may be high levels of diversity and
          complexity--although alliances may form along lines that
          make things much simpler.
       3. The event may be at the edge of chaos. In many cases the
          reason for more formal structures is to avoid falling off
          that edge into real chaos.
       4. Different people may have different ideas about what
          improvement means. That may be the source of the problem.
       5. In some cases pre-existing alliances may exist in which
          there are many connections within each camp.

    Then what?

    -- Russ

    On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Merle Lefkoff
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi Nick,

        Open Space Technology is a facilitation methodology even older
        than you and me. (Just kidding--no method is that old.) I've
        been using it for years and participated just last week in a
        whole conference in Istanbul using the technique. At the
        Madrona Institute we massage it and combine it with additional
        processes to see what it takes to break folks loose from old
        paradigms. One of those old paradigms is the insistence on
        moving toward consensus as a best outcome. In true complexity
        fashion, we abandon the need for agreement. Since Steve is a
        part of our recent Madrona group, he is experiencing a version
        of OST.

        Merle




        Nicholas Thompson wrote:

            Everybody, (anybody?),
            I stumbled on this, yesterday. Note that it cites Kaufmann
            for it's inspiration.
            http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm
            It's a system, called for some reason "Open Space
            Technologies", for organizing meetings and moving toward
            consensus.
            My Calvinist curmudgeon nature tends to automatically
            deplore this sort of thing, (Any time I see chairs
            arranged in a circle, my first impulse is to run screaming
            from the room.) But I have to admit, it interested me. The
            trick is that if there is more than one circle, the group
            can reorganize spontaneously. I guess people are dragging
            their chairs around the room.
            The hedonist in me particularly liked:
            /The Law is the so called Law of Two Feet, which states
            simply, if at any time you find yourself in any situation
            where you are neither learning nor contributing – use your
            two feet and move to some place more to your liking. Such
            a place might be another group, or even outside into the
            sunshine. No matter what, don't sit there feeling
            miserable. The law, as stated, may sound like rank
            hedonism, but even hedonism has its place, reminding us
            that unhappy people are unlikely to be productive people./
            //
            Ah, the years I spent in Department Meetings when I could
            have been "/outside in the sunshine!"/!
            I bet Steve Guerin will like:
            /The lesson from Open Space is a simple one. The only way
            to bring an Open Space gathering to its knees is to
            attempt to control it. It may, therefore, turn out that
            the one thing we always wanted (control) is not only
            unavailable, but unnecessary. After all, if order is for
            free we could afford being out of control and love it.
            Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions
            for self organization are met. Perhaps we can now relax,
            and stop working so hard./
            Anybody out there have any experience with it?
            Nick
            Nicholas S. Thompson
            Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
            Clark University ([email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>)
            http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
            <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
            <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
            http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
            
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