I guess I was whining. While I'm at it, I'd like to note (whine) that very few universities seem interested in, or capable of, teaching high performance computing methodology.
--Doug On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, lets start the usual friam whining. Hey, you left out foobar++! But > to be fair, I'd be fine if you replaced java with c/c++. > > The point, obviously, is to give a span of languages that hit the main > points. > > -- Owen > > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > > I guess you're not interested in teaching languages appropriate to HPC > implementations, Owen. C++ and MPI... > > --Doug > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Given the constraints and goals, my approach would be to teach that there >> are many languages in different environments, but that they share many >> features (loops, conditionals, types, ...). >> >> Then I'd pick the following areas: >> Command-line programming: Bash & Python >> File/Text manipulation, ssh login, regular expressions, commands >> System Programming: Java >> objects, GUI, Applets, types >> Web Server Programming: PHP >> client - server networking architecture, http requests, how it won over >> java >> Web Client Programming: Javascript >> DOM, AJAX, html, css >> >> That may look like a lot, but it covers most programming environments and >> goals. And the design issues would pop out when discussing the environments >> in which these languages excel. >> >> I would NOT go into a lot of detail (clearly!). Instead I'd generalize >> what they have in common, and possibly use cheat-sheets which have 80% of >> the important syntax. >> >> The bash/python initial work would also have a lot of pragmatic elements: >> how to login and use a remote unix box (bash), and the historic evolution of >> awk, perl, and now for many, python. I'd note that python does not have a >> native gui (but is considered the best "pseudo-code" by theoreticians -- see >> sagemath.org) thus the transition to java would have even more meaning. >> The two web languages would clarify the tcp/ip world we live in and most do >> not understand. >> >> The goal is to leave the students with a language framework from which >> they can choose how to proceed in future work. >> >> -- Owen >> > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Doug Roberts [email protected] [email protected] 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell
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