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On 9/27/10 10:05 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
> I don't think my clearance color is high enough to purchase that product.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 09:41 AM, *"Parks, Raymond" <[email protected]>*
> wrote:
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>     Citizen (Clone),
>
>     The fact that you asked indicates a lack of loyalty. If you had
>     purchased the product, it would have been known and you would have
>     been told. Please report to the nearest Reeducation Center.
>
>     Big Brother (The Computer)
>
>     P.S. If you get my parenthetical references you are as hopeless a
>     gaming geek as I.
>
>      
>     *From*: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:[email protected]]
>     *Sent*: Sunday, September 26, 2010 09:22 AM
>     *To*: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
>     <[email protected]>; 'Pieter Steenekamp' <[email protected]>
>     *Subject*: Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil]
>      
>
>     Er….. um ……. What was the product? 
>
>      
>
>     N
>
>      
>
>     *From:* [email protected]
>     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *ERIC P. CHARLES
>     *Sent:* Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:50 AM
>     *To:* Pieter Steenekamp
>     *Cc:* [email protected]
>     *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil]
>
>      
>
>     This seems on topic:
>     I got an automated call the other day from a company telling me
>     that there is a recall on one of their products. More
>     specifically, records from my grocery store (presumably data
>     stored in connection with my rewards card) indicated that I had
>     purchased their product between 3 and 18 months previously. It was
>     a little cool, and a little creepy at the same time.
>
>     Eric
>
>     On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 07:23 AM, *Pieter Steenekamp
>     <[email protected] <#>>* wrote:
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>      
>
>       If a grocery store offers to sell you a bread for a dollar, do you
>
>     accuse them of forcing you to give you a dollar? Then why do you accuse
>
>     Facebook of forcing you to do anything? If you don't like it, simply
>
>     don't open an account with them. If you don't buy bread then you die, so
>
>     I would rather accuse the grocery store of forcing me to part with my
>
>     dollar. If you don't open a Facebook account, at least you don't
>     die.
>
>      
>
>     Pieter
>
>      
>
>     On 2010/09/26 09:03 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
>
>     > No, it is not ridiculuos, it is serious.
>
>     > I think the Facebook phenomenon rises a number of interesting
>     questions:
>
>     > Who are you? What is the core of a person? Why is social media so
>
>     > successful?
>
>     > When does a company become evil?
>
>     >
>
>      
>
>     > Social media and social networks are
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>     > a hot trend, maybe because people feel
>
>     > increasingly isolated in a digital and
>
>     > urbanized world. Erich Fromm says in "The Art of Loving":
>
>     "The deepest 
>
>     > need of man is to overcome his separateness, to leave the prison of
>
>     > his aloneness." All social networks exploit this need.
>
>     > For example a social network for books like GoodReads or Shelfari
>
>     > connects you to readers with similar interests.
>
>     > Facebook is special. It claims to connect
>
>     > you to the people you already know.
>
>     > The problem is:
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>     >
>
>      
>
>     > a) You probably have multiple circles of
>
>     > friends, and these friends belong to different
>
>     > areas: family, job, hobby, sports, etc.
>
>     > Facebook allows you only to have one
>
>     > circle of friends and one single identity, your physical identity
>
>     > characterized by your real name and your real photo. Since the
>
>     > identity forms the core of a person, it reduces you to your physical
>
>     > appearance.
>
>     > If you are not good looking or if you have
>
>     > no friends, like the shy nerdy student Kip Drordy in the video, then
>
>     > Facebook classifies you as a loser. It denies you
>
>     > to be what you want to be, but the declaration
>
>     > of independence says: "all Men are created equal, they are endowed
>
>     > [..] with certain unalienable Rights, among these are Life, Liberty
>
>     > and the pursuit of Happiness."
>
>     > It does not mention the right to have a
>
>     > Facebook profile.
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>     >
>
>      
>
>     > b) To connect you to your friends, a company must own your
>     private
>
>     data.
>
>     > Facebook forces you to reveal your private data, to give up your
>
>     > privacy. Would
>
>     > you tell the government who your friends
>
>     > are, where you have been, what you are doing?
>
>     > Then why do you tell it to a private company?
>
>     > Should our private life and our private data belong to a company at
>
>     > all? The people who think Facebook is evil say no. This is similar to
>
>     > the question of Microsoft a few years ago: should our Operating
>
>     > System, the Operating System of our computers, belong to a company?
>
>     > The people who think Microsoft is evil say no.
>
>     >
>
>      
>
>     > Contrary to Twitter, Facebook forces you to give up your privacy: "We
>
>     > will connect you to your friends
>
>     > (if you give us your private data)".
>
>     > and reduces you to your physical appearance
>
>     > "We will connect you to your friends
>
>     > (if you tell us what you are doing
>
>     > right now and how you look like)"
>
>     > That's why Facebook is evil.
>
>     >
>
>      
>
>     > -J.
>
>     >
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>      
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>     >
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>      
>
>     > ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfredo Covaleda To: The Friday
>
>     > Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Saturday, September 25,
>
>     > 2010 10:58 PM
>
>     > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends
>
>     >
>
>      
>
>     > So funny.
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>     >
>
>      
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>     > My Facebook profile has more friends than me. Isn't is
>     ridiculous?
>
>     >
>
>      
>
>     > Alfredo
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>     >
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>     >
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>     >
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>     Eric Charles
>
>     Professional Student and
>     Assistant Professor of Psychology
>     Penn State University
>     Altoona, PA 16601
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> Eric Charles
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> Assistant Professor of Psychology
> Penn State University
> Altoona, PA 16601
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