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N From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ERIC P. CHARLES Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:50 AM To: Pieter Steenekamp Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil] This seems on topic: I got an automated call the other day from a company telling me that there is a recall on one of their products. More specifically, records from my grocery store (presumably data stored in connection with my rewards card) indicated that I had purchased their product between 3 and 18 months previously. It was a little cool, and a little creepy at the same time. Eric On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 07:23 AM, Pieter Steenekamp <[email protected]> wrote: If a grocery store offers to sell you a bread for a dollar, do you accuse them of forcing you to give you a dollar? Then why do you accuse Facebook of forcing you to do anything? If you don't like it, simply don't open an account with them. If you don't buy bread then you die, so I would rather accuse the grocery store of forcing me to part with my dollar. If you don't open a Facebook account, at least you don't die. Pieter On 2010/09/26 09:03 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > No, it is not ridiculuos, it is serious. > I think the Facebook phenomenon rises a number of interesting questions: > Who are you? What is the core of a person? Why is social media so > successful? > When does a company become evil? > > Social media and social networks are > a hot trend, maybe because people feel > increasingly isolated in a digital and > urbanized world. Erich Fromm says in "The Art of Loving": "The deepest > need of man is to overcome his separateness, to leave the prison of > his aloneness." All social networks exploit this need. > For example a social network for books like GoodReads or Shelfari > connects you to readers with similar interests. > Facebook is special. It claims to connect > you to the people you already know. > The problem is: > > a) You probably have multiple circles of > friends, and these friends belong to different > areas: family, job, hobby, sports, etc. > Facebook allows you only to have one > circle of friends and one single identity, your physical identity > characterized by your real name and your real photo. Since the > identity forms the core of a person, it reduces you to your physical > appearance. > If you are not good looking or if you have > no friends, like the shy nerdy student Kip Drordy in the video, then > Facebook classifies you as a loser. It denies you > to be what you want to be, but the declaration > of independence says: "all Men are created equal, they are endowed > [..] with certain unalienable Rights, among these are Life, Liberty > and the pursuit of Happiness." > It does not mention the right to have a > Facebook profile. > > b) To connect you to your friends, a company must own your private data. > Facebook forces you to reveal your private data, to give up your > privacy. Would > you tell the government who your friends > are, where you have been, what you are doing? > Then why do you tell it to a private company? > Should our private life and our private data belong to a company at > all? The people who think Facebook is evil say no. This is similar to > the question of Microsoft a few years ago: should our Operating > System, the Operating System of our computers, belong to a company? > The people who think Microsoft is evil say no. > > Contrary to Twitter, Facebook forces you to give up your privacy: "We > will connect you to your friends > (if you give us your private data)". > and reduces you to your physical appearance > "We will connect you to your friends > (if you tell us what you are doing > right now and how you look like)" > That's why Facebook is evil. > > -J. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfredo Covaleda To: The Friday > Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Saturday, September 25, > 2010 10:58 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends > > So funny. > > My Facebook profile has more friends than me. Isn't is ridiculous? > > Alfredo > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org Eric Charles Professional Student and Assistant Professor of Psychology Penn State University Altoona, PA 16601
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