I'd love to know what the risk-benifit trade off is. Do we harass 10^6 people
at a cost of $10^9 for one discovery of note, one which would stop an air-bomb?
As I understand it, the best info is not scanners etc but community members
reporting suspicious behavior. Maybe we should ask help from the Islamic
community? I realize they feel victimized, but throw the same $$ at that sort
of program would likely create better results.
The last "event", the package bomb, was not meant to destroy the aircraft was
it? I think there were two packages sent to "enemy" land addresses.
To tell the truth, I think I'm willing to risk it by tossing the scanners etc,
using sensible (and PC incorrect) social methods, and hope the odds are not as
bad as people think.
-- Owen
On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Russell Gonnering wrote:
> Because we are unwilling to do the only sane thing and profile behavior, we
> sacrifice our liberty on the altar of political correctness. So, fellow
> FRIAMers, when they start doing rectal exams to find the concealed
> explosives, what will our response be then? What about the surgically
> implanted explosives?
>
> The choice is not between unpleasant experiences and being blown up. The
> choice is between acting like idiots or doing what actually is necessary to
> prevent terror. So far, we have chosen the former. Is it really worth it to
> spend billions of dollars and terrorize the innocents to appear to be “fair”
> to everyone?
>
> I put my money on the idiots, as they always seem to run things. El Al should
> expand into the domestic US market.
>
> Russ #3
> Russell Gonnering, MD, MMM, FACS, CPHQ
> [email protected]
> www.emergenthealth.net
>
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> On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I have followed the correspondence on enhanced scanning with usual mixture
>> of shock and incredulity. Do people object because it’s offensive or
>> because it’s ineffective? It would be unpleasant but, for me, unpleasanter
>> to be blown up by a device that had avoided the enhanced scanner. But I
>> haven’t enough info to make any definitive judgment. In particular on two
>> matters. It seems that new bomb compounds can be concealed by flesh masses
>> in exotic parts of the body without detection by the old scanners. I
>> thought that the Xmas underwear bomber had proved this. It seems that old
>> folk, handicapped people, children and infants are ideal subjects for
>> planted bombs, with no adverse fall-out for the Bad Hats if detected. In
>> this wicked world the innocent are always punished.
>> If correct this is pretty awful news.
>> The strategy is for a bomber to finesse that he’d be directed through the
>> old system, pass and end up undetected on his planned flight. If an
>> enhanced scan is required, then he should avoid this by all means while
>> offering to take the old, ineffectual scan, and withdraw, undetected,
>> unidentified and with his powder dry, to try again another day.
>> In such circumstances he should behave like a gullible but superior person
>> (e.g. a Friamer) and behave with all the histrionics necessary for the
>> exasperated TSA to simply tell him to get lost. So this dramatic response,
>> that some objectors seem to have chosen, and others to approve of, would
>> make the objector highly suspect, and rightly so.
>>
>>
>> Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures
>>
>> Expertise is not knowing everything, but knowing what to look for.
>>
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