More parties? I'm for it! :) But seriously, one question on "fair voting": when you vote, can you vote for multiple candidates in priority order so that an "instant runoff" can be held?
-- Owen On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > yes, it is similar where I live, although we have more parties in Germany > (conservative, socialist, liberal and green parties). No, people usually do > not change their mind in political discussions. They change their mind > during the course of time, though. I changed my mind for example about our > own chancellor, Angela Merkel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel. In > the beginning I had doubts. She looks a bit clumsy and grumpy > sometimes, and there are certainly politicians who have more charisma. But > over the years I learned to appreciate her honesty, her modesty, and her > kindness. She said she wants to serve her country, and she really does. She > would never lie intentionally. This may seems obvious, but how can you > trust someone who lies? > > What about you, do you vote for Romney, Obama or someone else, like Gary > Johnson? From a psychological aspect, this election is interesting, isn't > it? > > -J. > > > Am 04.11.2012 03:39, schrieb Nicholas Thompson: > > Jochen, > > At this week's FRIAM meeting, we talked briefly about politics and it was > clear that there was some disagreement around the table. We were about to > let it go, on that ground, when I decided, spurred by my newly embraced > pragmatist ideology, to beg that they all put their minds for 5 minutes to > the question, "How do we go about having a conversation with people with > whom we disagree? A conversation that would actually get somewhere." > > Our usual way of proceding is what I call "FogHorns on a Shrouded Bay." > Each individual sounds off while the others listen politely or check their > email on their cell phones. That goes around the circle a couple of times, > and then people just drop the topic and go on to something else. > > On the whole, most people I know would rather be force fed castor oil than > be convinced to change their minds. > > So, back to you, Jochen. Is it truly different where you are? Have you > ever sat in on a political discussion in which anybody ever changed his or > her mind? How did that happen? > > Nick > > > > From: Friam [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of Jochen Fromm > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Presidential Election > > > > Interesting read. Sometimes we wonder why other peoples voting decisions are > fundamentally different from ours even if all good reasons speak against it. > Are they backward or brainwashed? Jonathan Haidt has written a book named > "The Righteous Mind" where he argues that people don't really listen to > arguments or reasons. Guided by their emotions, they often come to a quick > conclusion what is good or bad, and this decision is in accordance with > their worldview and their moral system (regardless how skewed it may be). > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonatha > n-haidt.html?pagewanted=all > <http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonath > an-haidt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0> > &_r=0 > > -J. > > Am 03.11.2012 21:18, schrieb Roger Critchlow: > > Here's how backward the conservative heart of america beats: > > http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con > > > -- rec -- > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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