On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Nexus 4 fiasco is the most unprofessional fuckup I've seen a large > company execute since Microsoft released Windows 8. > http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/screw-it.html > --Doug This is so bizarre. I sent the attached when you first mentioned your purchase. I still have the problem with android that I've always had: No real upgrade due to the unholy trinity: - OS: Google - Handset: HTC, Samsung, "an oem mfgr" - Carrier: Verizon, TMo, ... Well, who's in charge? When I got my last phone, I thought I'd get a Galaxy but then after talking to Galaxy owners, who love the device, I found they were 2 or 3 versions behind on the OS? I asked who should supply it? I dunno. Why do you care? Well I care because I want my system managed well by one of the evil three. I thought cyanogenmod would be a "plan B" but then they have a really hard time keeping up with the hardware changes with each handset. I'm *not* an Apple fan boy. But I will not buy any device until it is really clear who's in charge. When I finally gave up and went, again, with Apple .. it was after a conversation with Verizon. They made it VERY clear: Apple is in charge. They do the upgrades. They are the warrantee-ers. They hold the carrier in an iron grip, and own the OS and handset. And they would answer your wifi question. Do I like this draconian mode? No. (It would be difficult to pull off your data-only stunt, I think, with iPhone) I really wanted to break with iPhone, I live in the Google Ecology and like their open mindset. But for some reason, it may not be possible for a partnership between handset, carrier and OS. I dont really understand it, but I observer it. I'm really sorry the N4 failed. I've wanted to "cut the cord" by buying a phone w/o contract and go with TMo even tho their signal sucks for many of the places I use my phone. Your innovative idea of data-only really was appealing. But. Google. OEM. TMo. Not. Yet. -- Owen On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > This is WAY cool! Sorta cutting the cord so to speak. > > We've talked about getting our monthlies down for digital subscription > services: Cable, Phone (landline and cell). > > - How much did the phone cost? > - And it is from Google, not just a branding thing, right? > - So gets (gasp) updates regularly, rather than using cyanogenmod? > - Any problems with Google Voice? Did you keep your phone number? > > Congrats! > > -- Owen > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I just purchased a Google Nexus 4 GSM phone. I plan to drop Verizon like >> a hot potato the second it arrives, and use the Nexus 4 with google Voice >> for my phone service, with a $30 monthly data plan from either T-Mobile or >> AT&T. I've been using Google's Voice service on my current Verizon HTC >> Android phone via the GrooveIP app, and it works quite well. >> >> >> I was exploring AT&T's month data plan offerings online a minute ago, and >> captured this chat session. >> >> >> --Doug >> >> ______________ >> >> AT&T sales representatives are happy to assist you with your questions. >> >> AT&T sales representatives will not have access to your personal account. >> This service is provided to you under AT&Ts Terms and >> Conditions<http://www.corp.att.com/terms/> >> and Privacy Policy <http://att.com/privacy_policy>. >> >> You are now chatting with Keith, an AT&T sales representative. >> >> Keith: Welcome to AT&T online Sales support. How may I assist you with >> placing your order today? >> >> Doug Roberts: Hi. I'm getting a Google Nexus 4 phone and I would like to >> purchase a monthly data plan. >> >> Keith: I would be happy to assist you with your inquiry. >> >> Doug Roberts: Do you have monthly plans, no contract? >> >> Keith: Unfortunately the Google Nexus 4 would not be compatible with an >> AT&T data plan. >> >> Doug Roberts: Isn't At&T a GSM carrier? >> >> Keith: Yes it is, however that device would be compatible with our data >> services. >> >> Doug Roberts: How about the Google Nexus 7 tablet? >> >> Keith: Let me double check to verify the tablet. One moment please. >> >> Keith: Thank you for your patience, eGoogle Nexus 7 tablet would work >> with an AT&T data plan. >> >> Keith: You would have the ability to select a month to month plan for >> data. >> >> Doug Roberts: Interesting. The Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7 use identical >> radios. Why is the 4 not eligible for a data plan? >> >> Keith: The phone itself will work being that it's under the GSM >> umbrella, in terms of the overall quality being that it was not purchased >> or offered through AT&T, you may see some differences then with your >> current carrier. >> >> Doug Roberts: I use Google voice for my phone service on my Nexus 7, and >> that's what I plan to do with the Nexus 4 when it gets here. Quality of >> service should be the same, don't you think? >> >> Keith: In terms of data, there may be some variances in overall >> performance. >> >> Doug Roberts: Ok, well thanks for the info. Once the Nexus 4 arrives >> I'll be back in touch. >> >> Keith: However with using the Google Nexus 4, you would not be able to >> have just data for the device. A voice plan would be required with it. >> >> Doug Roberts: I bet if I called it a Nexus 7, nobody would know the >> difference. >> >> Doug Roberts: Except me, of course. >> >> Keith: Just wanted to give a heads up in terms of bringing your own >> phone for service. >> >> Doug Roberts: Again, thanks for the info! >> >> Keith: Sure, my pleasure! >> >> -- >> *Doug Roberts >> [email protected] >> [email protected]* >> *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*<http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> >> * <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> >> 505-455-7333 - Office >> 505-670-8195 - Cell* >> >>
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