Yes, that's what makes this whole episode so bizarre: Google owns that phone. They had LG manufacture it for them. Google owns Android - it's theirs! And they failed to make the phone work. And since it's an unlocked GSM phone, the operator is not an issue: purchase a sim card from any GSM provider and you're done! The operator has no say in the issue.
Google must be completely dysfunctional. --Doug On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Nexus 4 fiasco is the most unprofessional fuckup I've seen a large >> company execute since Microsoft released Windows 8. >> http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/screw-it.html >> --Doug > > > This is so bizarre. I sent the attached when you first mentioned your > purchase. I still have the problem with android that I've always had: No > real upgrade due to the unholy trinity: > - OS: Google > - Handset: HTC, Samsung, "an oem mfgr" > - Carrier: Verizon, TMo, ... > > Well, who's in charge? When I got my last phone, I thought I'd get a > Galaxy but then after talking to Galaxy owners, who love the device, I > found they were 2 or 3 versions behind on the OS? I asked who should > supply it? I dunno. Why do you care? Well I care because I want my system > managed well by one of the evil three. I thought cyanogenmod would be a > "plan B" but then they have a really hard time keeping up with the hardware > changes with each handset. > > I'm *not* an Apple fan boy. But I will not buy any device until it is > really clear who's in charge. > > When I finally gave up and went, again, with Apple .. it was after a > conversation with Verizon. They made it VERY clear: Apple is in charge. > They do the upgrades. They are the warrantee-ers. They hold the carrier > in an iron grip, and own the OS and handset. And they would answer your > wifi question. > > Do I like this draconian mode? No. (It would be difficult to pull off > your data-only stunt, I think, with iPhone) I really wanted to break with > iPhone, I live in the Google Ecology and like their open mindset. > > But for some reason, it may not be possible for a partnership between > handset, carrier and OS. I dont really understand it, but I observer it. > > I'm really sorry the N4 failed. I've wanted to "cut the cord" by buying a > phone w/o contract and go with TMo even tho their signal sucks for many of > the places I use my phone. Your innovative idea of data-only really was > appealing. > > But. Google. OEM. TMo. Not. Yet. > > -- Owen > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This is WAY cool! Sorta cutting the cord so to speak. >> >> We've talked about getting our monthlies down for digital subscription >> services: Cable, Phone (landline and cell). >> >> - How much did the phone cost? >> - And it is from Google, not just a branding thing, right? >> - So gets (gasp) updates regularly, rather than using cyanogenmod? >> - Any problems with Google Voice? Did you keep your phone number? >> >> Congrats! >> >> -- Owen >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I just purchased a Google Nexus 4 GSM phone. I plan to drop Verizon >>> like a hot potato the second it arrives, and use the Nexus 4 with google >>> Voice for my phone service, with a $30 monthly data plan from either >>> T-Mobile or AT&T. I've been using Google's Voice service on my current >>> Verizon HTC Android phone via the GrooveIP app, and it works quite well. >>> >>> >>> I was exploring AT&T's month data plan offerings online a minute ago, >>> and captured this chat session. >>> >>> >>> --Doug >>> >>> ______________ >>> >>> AT&T sales representatives are happy to assist you with your questions. >>> >>> AT&T sales representatives will not have access to your personal >>> account. This service is provided to you under AT&Ts Terms and >>> Conditions <http://www.corp.att.com/terms/> and Privacy >>> Policy<http://att.com/privacy_policy> >>> . >>> >>> You are now chatting with Keith, an AT&T sales representative. >>> >>> Keith: Welcome to AT&T online Sales support. How may I assist you with >>> placing your order today? >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Hi. I'm getting a Google Nexus 4 phone and I would like >>> to purchase a monthly data plan. >>> >>> Keith: I would be happy to assist you with your inquiry. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Do you have monthly plans, no contract? >>> >>> Keith: Unfortunately the Google Nexus 4 would not be compatible with an >>> AT&T data plan. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Isn't At&T a GSM carrier? >>> >>> Keith: Yes it is, however that device would be compatible with our data >>> services. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: How about the Google Nexus 7 tablet? >>> >>> Keith: Let me double check to verify the tablet. One moment please. >>> >>> Keith: Thank you for your patience, eGoogle Nexus 7 tablet would work >>> with an AT&T data plan. >>> >>> Keith: You would have the ability to select a month to month plan for >>> data. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Interesting. The Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7 use identical >>> radios. Why is the 4 not eligible for a data plan? >>> >>> Keith: The phone itself will work being that it's under the GSM >>> umbrella, in terms of the overall quality being that it was not purchased >>> or offered through AT&T, you may see some differences then with your >>> current carrier. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: I use Google voice for my phone service on my Nexus 7, >>> and that's what I plan to do with the Nexus 4 when it gets here. Quality of >>> service should be the same, don't you think? >>> >>> Keith: In terms of data, there may be some variances in overall >>> performance. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Ok, well thanks for the info. Once the Nexus 4 arrives >>> I'll be back in touch. >>> >>> Keith: However with using the Google Nexus 4, you would not be able to >>> have just data for the device. A voice plan would be required with it. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: I bet if I called it a Nexus 7, nobody would know the >>> difference. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Except me, of course. >>> >>> Keith: Just wanted to give a heads up in terms of bringing your own >>> phone for service. >>> >>> Doug Roberts: Again, thanks for the info! >>> >>> Keith: Sure, my pleasure! >>> >>> -- >>> *Doug Roberts >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected]* >>> *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*<http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> >>> * <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> >>> 505-455-7333 - Office >>> 505-670-8195 - Cell* >>> >>> > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > -- *Doug Roberts [email protected] [email protected]* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*<http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> * <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile*
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