Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 09/24/2013 11:47 AM:
I see open source it as qualitatively different than the subjective openness 
one experiences in a large organization where there may not be day-to-day 
impediments to getting the information that is needed to do a job, but there 
are weak or complicated relationships reaching outside the organization.    
[...] However, non-flat organizations where people give up the option of 
opening (or, in the case you cited: closing) certain channels means they may be 
less free in exchange for other benefits.  The morons you mentioned just failed 
to calibrate to their environment.

Were I to allow myself to think in terms of disjoint "open" versus "closed", I 
would agree.  But I don't think they are disjoint, even in the case of open source (e.g. GPL to 
BSD). There are all sorts of gradations, some of which map well to legal structures (contracts, 
statutes) and some of which don't.

In the case of the 3 event types: 1) improper individual actions, 2) [ab]use of 
privileged access, and 3) information hiding, channels aren't open or closed, transparent 
or opaque.  They're translucent.  A good case to consider is the "black" budget 
of the intelligence community.  Even before Snowden's leak, that budget was really just a 
very dark gray, not completely black.  On the other side, an open source OS like Ubuntu 
is really a very light gray (due to the inclusion of some non-free drivers as well as the 
sheer size of and variety within the distribution).  To some extent, what makes the 
obfuscator competitions (and cryptography) so interesting is the navigation between 
closed and open.

And I think the same can be said of both subjective and objective measures of 
organizations.  And what makes human systems so interesting is their very 
dynamic ability to navigate between closed and open.  You can see very subtle 
opening/closing of channels in almost any human interaction, pairwise or 
one-to-many.   It's certainly what drives humor, that balance between banality 
and wisdom, literal vs. metaphoric, transparent vs. opaque.

The primary qualitative difference I see is (merely) that humans are distinct from their artifacts. 
 But that difference is a lot like "life" or "porn".  You know it when you see 
the difference between, say, a piece of code and the programmer who wrote it.  But to sit back and 
_define_ the difference so that it applies generically can be problematic.

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⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
You ain't digging on my questions
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