Actually, I was noting the East-coast (maybe bi-coastal) biases.  Like the New 
York Times I mentioned in my algorithm email, there is a tendency to gloss over 
differences that don't appear to be big from the distance of folks like the 
author.  Another example, besides the Hispanic lumping, is that he attributes 
mixed voting patterns in the Midwest to social moderation rather than conflict 
between economic and moral interests.  Archie Bunker still exists in the 
Midwest (or at least his descendants) espousing both conservative and liberal 
views simultaneously.  Conservative because he/she (Archie/Archette?) believes 
in gun rights, religion, and other socially conservative issues but liberal 
because he/she knows that unions are economically important to their welfare.  
That, by the way, may be another source of data for the analysis - union 
membership (possibly down to the individual union) in geographic regions.

The lumping of geographic diversity into 11 sub-nations also ignores niche 
cultures that have a disproportional effect on their surroundings.  Dan Arielly 
notes in _Predictably_Irrational_ that people tend to make decisions that are 
more "moral" if they are reminded of the Ten Commandments just before making 
that decision.  Groups like Mennonites, Amish, and Quakers in the Midwest tend 
to remind their neighbors of traditional values out of proportion to their 
numbers.

Native Americans have a disproportional presence in some professions, including 
the military and construction.  Hispanics in general, but particularly those 
several generations from immigration or occupation, tend to have a 
disproportional presence in the military - so much that they make the 
military's average height slightly shorter and average weight slightly greater.

Another example of bi-coastal bias is the concatenation of much of Texas into 
Greater Appalachia while separating eastern New Mexico from West Texas.  I 
would attribute this to a lack of historical and regional knowledge.  In the 
Tufts magazine article, Woodard states "It was with the Union in the Civil 
War."  That is clearly erroneous - Texas was part of the CSA, as was Missouri, 
Arkansas, Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina.  Not only that, Nortenos are 
centered on the Rio Grande Valley - while eastern New Mexico was partitioned 
between Nueva Mexico and Tejas, neither really had any use for it.  Nowadays, 
eastern New Mexico is clearly more closely related to west Texas than to the 
rest of New Mexico.  Woodard's map would indicate that Congressional District 2 
should be Democratic but it remains staunchly Republican, like it's Texas 
neighbors.

All of these considerations are glossed over by an author who assesses the 11 
sub-nations by his own culture and politics.  Actually, now that I look at the 
Tufts article, I realize that Woodard's descriptions have as much bases as a 
typical astrology breakdown.  The description of Yankeedom is laughable if one 
knows history.  The extent of Yankeedom is just as silly - Wisconsin, Michigan, 
Minnesota and North Dakota have little to do, culturally and ethnically, with 
New England.  Woodard also doesn't know the history of Pennsylvania - William 
Penn was a Quaker and he welcomed others, but he also welcomed Mennonites and 
Amish, who eventually outnumbered the Society of Friends.  I highly doubt that 
the entire South was founded by English slave lords from Barbados.  Some of the 
excess English population from Barbados moved to Carolina - but I doubt they 
were "slave lords".  In fact, Carolina's Lord Proprietors included Anthony 
Ashley Cooper, a patron of John Locke, who was the most involved in early 
Carolina.  This reflects Woodard's prejudice against the South.  The whole 
concept is rife with revisionist history intended to support the areas most 
friendly to the author's political views while denigrating the areas least 
friendly to his views.

The cultural demography of the US is not that simple - there are contradicting 
patterns everywhere and cultures are not necessarily adjacent.

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

> ST -
>> 
>> Ouch.  Its uncomfortable when you hold up a description of America....by 
>> making us look in the mirror.
>> Ol' Pogo was right. (We have met the enemy and he is ...).  Rant away, my 
>> good man.
> You are welcome ;^)!
>> 
>> You have thought deeper on this than I have.  My attraction to the 11 
>> Nations Model is its nuances that
>> I would not have been able to find - even if I could do the research.
> Certainly it was the product of someone who spends their life in such 
> pursuits.  Whether any one of us might align with his biases (I think Ray was 
> referring to the clear anti-Tea sentiments he very clearly used the model to 
> support when he said biases).   I *hope* some (Ray, ???) who are more 
> naturally aligned with the Conservatives, more likely to be at least 
> partially understanding of the Tea-party line would weigh in on the model and 
> offer alternatives to some of the perspectives  it offers.  I think it is a 
> good model and that it reflects much of what is good as well as what is 
> questionable about the posture of each region.

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