On 1/10/14, 3:41 PM, glen wrote:
OK. So, as a descriptive fact: "He who has the gold rules." Now we go back to Marcus' question: Does the aphorism mean "He who has the gold _ought_ to rule"? At which point, I just reiterate my response, which is: Since all we've ever known is "He who has the gold rules", what basis can we possibly use to say that it ought to be any other way? What other way is there?
Robert already mentioned a counter example: The Communists seizing power from the Nationalists in China. Similarly, greenbacks didn't make the difference in Vietnam. So another way is spending lives and destroying things, not just employment and bribery.

Ok, but going back to the thread about the proof of God's existence, one of the conclusions in the proof was that "Everything that is the case is so necessarily." And from that it can be concluded there is no free will. If there is no free will, why talk about `ought'. That kind of reasoning would make sense per the aphorism but I don't it is also a descriptive fact. It's common but not universal -- even if the only other time the aphorism doesn't hold true is in the during the part of the suggested cycle where the wealthy are thrown up against a wall and shot.

Marcus


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