Hmm I thought to be a Libertarian you needed to know the Duodecimal system, able to stamp books with a rubber date stamp, and promise to return books on time. And if you work for the unseen university be good with penuts. (Rimshot)
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, glen <[email protected]> wrote: > On 01/12/2014 10:43 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > > The fluid comes with plumbing to control it, of course. Overall, I > > agree, those with money have power. I even agree that those that have > > the self-control to acquire and control their money probably are > > demonstrating rational behavior in doing so, and that there is a another > > set of people in the complement that don't have those skills or the > > intelligence required. But it is a Just So story to equate the > > complement with the incompetent subset in that complement. > > Heh, speaking as a member of the complement, I'd like to think that my > lack of money does not demonstrate my membership in the incompetent > subset of the complement. Rather, I've _chosen_ to maintain a level of > spending that is just below my income. (The fact that I had options > argues for my rationality in choosing do act "irrationally". ;-) > > > I would guess the Allocated problem is the main one in the middle > > class. It also depends on what you think about `communities' and how > > you define them (Those demanding insufferable people that are always in > > your face about your every micro-decision and lifestyle choice and that > > you try to avoid the best you can.). The allocation might be the > > gratuitous loan on the travel trailer or vacation home, but it could > > also be the kid's college investment fund, or even a generous donation > > given to an charity, for people that _really_ have it bad in Africa. > > True. And it's the fundamental problem with trying to persuade people > to invest in the commons. My argument is largely that, because people's > home ownership is a core part of their net worth and financial planning, > most of the other allocations are senseless without a sound plan to > preserve the value of their homes ... partly by keeping the neighborhood > from turning into a bank-owned wasteland, but also partly by preserving > any historical value, avoiding "urban renewal" abuse by larger > corporations, avoiding narcissistic gated communities, developing parks, > walkability, etc. > > The trouble is that, just like here in this mailing list, there is a > short attention span and an unwillingness to follow the rabbit down the > hole of infinite detail. Most of my neighbors just don't want to do the > boring and painstaking work required.... which makes me want to avoid > that work as well. > > > If > > it is too painful to fund the fund, the pain needs to be spread out in > > some systematic way with actual government IMO. > > Before I started participating in this hyper local government (our > neighborhood development association - which is a branch of the city, > not one of those things property owners are supposed to join and pay > dues to), I completely disagreed with you. I assumed anyone who owned a > home would be interested in preserving their home's value by investing > in the local community. Apparently, I was wrong. There is an energetic > subset of those people. But most of them just don't give a damn until > they need help. Most will only come to meetings when they have > something to bitch about. > > So, perhaps that's why I'm slowly turning into a liberal. It's time to > move... maybe out to Wyoming or somesuch so that I can again call myself > "libertarian" with a straight face. > > -- > =><= glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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