Guys,

It's honestly been "the other way" a lot.  There was even a time not too
long ago in the U.S. when our government made "rational" decisions about
this issue. In the mid 1950s, you were taxed on everything you made over
$400k at 92%.  The bottom bracket was taxed at 22%.  In 2012, you were
taxed on everything you made over $380k at 35%.  The bottom bracket, up to
$17k, was taxed at 10%.  There are a lot of variables that affect
inequality that can be changed, and that's just one of the  smaller ones. I
like Gillian's question, so here's mine:  What do you mean by "rich"?


On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm at the bottom of a long thread here, but if it's not too late, the
> only person I've ever read who could really describe the Right and the Left
> in America was Joe Bageant in his book "Deer Hunting with Jesus".   It was
> a big loss when he died recently, because he also had a great blog.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Nick Thompson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Marcus,
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I don’t follow.  Perhaps others will clarify.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marcus
>> G. Daniels
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 10:10 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] right vs left
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/14, 6:28 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>>
>> (2) Second, given that understanding of what I agreed to, there ARE
>> examples where the rich are not as dominant as the rich are in our current
>> society.  In fact, not long ago, we were such a society.
>>
>> For example (
>> http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/03/27/outside-groups-spending-through-roof
>> )
>>
>> " Outside groups, including super PACs and nonprofit organizations, have
>> spent almost four times more on the 2012 presidential campaign than
>> comparable organizations spent at the same point in the 2008 cycle, an
>> analysis of Federal Election Commission filings show."
>>
>> Your relativist argument (and evidence like above to support it), and
>> also historical observations made on this list have falsified "He who has
>> the gold rules." as literal proposition.   Given that it is falsified, pop
>> the stack to go back to the discussion of how to have an individual from
>> the left and an individual from the right reconcile their views
>> `rationally'.  Why ought he who has the gold rule?   Why should property
>> rights be respected in all situations or even in any?  Why should those
>> that have resources influence legislation?  Why should the law be
>> considered anything more than a factor in risk and reward decisions?  I'm
>> happy to go down the merry road of nihilism with you.  Bring your favorite
>> things.   I'll wear my cargo pants with lots of pockets.  Oh, never mind
>> that wrench I'm carrying.  I heard someone was having car trouble over the
>> horizon.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
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