Hi, Eric, 

What if Professional Societies were to declare that nothing is "published"
until it has been made available to the public.  I might permit a reasonable
handling fee, such as a nickel a page, making the downloading of a paper
roughly equivalent to the cost or Xeroxing it.   And then Universities
follow suit by declaring that nothing goes in your personnel file that has
not been "published".    

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Hi Russell,

You know what would be a really useful datum, and which probably exists
though I haven't tried to look for such:

Some simple two-color plot or list of the impact factors of journals,
grouped according to whether their copyright agreements do or do not permit
open access.  One could complement that by computing various correlation
coefficients of impact factor with a dummy variable for open/not-open.

My suspicion, which one could start to try to test with such data, is that
this is not a question of what is the advantage in an overall sense to
having research open access, but rather is about the mechanics of where
entrenched power lies, and how that places constraints on choices across the
system.

There have already been several discussions on this list (with useful
pointers to data) about why impact factors can be meaningless, or non-
comparable, or can have meanings that are far removed from the naive
advertisement, but none of that would be to my question here.  My assumption
is that, in the research institutional setting as I see it, everything is
driven toward a boundary of as near pure thoughtlessness as the system can
tolerate and still grind along, which means that what is rewarded is what
accountants can accumulate at high volume, which means impact factors and
things like them.  If, even just for purely historical reasons, a high
fraction of high-impact-factor journals are held by publishers who refuse
OA, then those journals have (for now) the power to force a trade-off by
authors, between compliance with a grant regulation, and support by their
universities for promotion/tenure, probably future grants where program
managers or reviewers look at impact factor ratings without taking into
account that they may be in direct conflict with the OA policy, for younger
researchers, hiring decisions in the first place, or start-up support,
teaching loads, etc.

If that is the main driver, then it should be purely a matter of the
combination of institutional design and getting coordination among enough
players in the system to provide power sufficient to push back against the
effectively rent-power (a power inherent in existing
position) of Elsevier, Kluwer, Springer, or whomever.

Like so many other things that seem to fail, it just seems easier to get
coordination in some kinds of systems (firms, markets) than in other kinds
of systems (academic communities, civil society), and the more-easily
organized tend to accumulate power advantages, which can sometimes become
extreme.

But some data and analysis would probably say whether there is any substance
in the above guesses.

Eric


On Apr 16, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

> The question I have is what advantage is there in not having your 
> research work open access?
>
> Given it is such a pain to download a non-open access paper, the open 
> access papers percolate to the top of my reading list.
>
> The only answers I can think of
>
> - publishing open access is more expensive (publishers often offer an 
> open access option for more dollars),
>
> - prestigious journals prevent archiving of papers in arXiv or other 
> repositories,
>
> - its a fag to upload your paper to arXiv or your institution archive
>
>
> In my case, uploading my publications to arXiv and linked from my 
> website is my default option. I will usually amend any copyright 
> transfer agreement to allow this, if not already allowed. It's a right 
> PITA when the publisher doesn't accept my amendment, as I then need to 
> remember that that paper is a special exception :(
>
> Cheers
> --
>
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