Great catch, thanks. Whew. I had faith we were tops in that category! -- Owen
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Robert Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Oh my. I'm delighted to bow to the EU for having more violence than >> ourselves. They also have a lot more ISL members. Odd. >> >> On the other hand, these stats are likely off, and besides, do they have >> Zozobra? >> >> -- Owen >> > > Yes, the stats are off. Here's a piece on (1) the source of the meme and > (2) the difficulty of international comparisons: > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/24/blog-posting/social-media-post-says-uk-has-far-higher-violent-c/ > > The reason for the wonky stats is the definition of violent crime. In US > criminal stats, violent crime is defined *only* as one of four specific > offenses (murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, aggravated assault). In > Europe, the definition is more inclusive. For example in UK, it includes > "simple assaults, all robberies, and all sexual offenses". So, yes, EU > stats are higher but it's an apples-to-oranges comparison. > > If you look at homicide rates (easier to measure), the story is what you > would expect: 5.0 reported/100k population in US, 1.1 reported/100 > population in England & Wales (source: > http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf) > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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