Yes, actually, you'd see these demands in Constituant Polotics all the time. And Consituant polotics roughly follows Comitte games, and Adventure Game modles.
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > This weeks Bill Stewart opinion piece in the New Mexican discusses the > Kurds fighting without support from Turkey: http://goo.gl/PNRTLv > > Turkey has three specific requirements before they join, all based on > their view that defeating ISIS would hand Assad a victory. > > 1 - The establishment of a buffer zone, at least several miles deep, > in Syria along the Turkish border, to which many of the more than 3 > million Syrian refugees in Turkey could return. > 2 - A no-fly zone over the buffer area. > 3 - Massive support for anti-Assad forces in Syria, something the U.S. > has been loathe to consider because of uncertainty over which Syrian rebel > hands would wind up with U.S. weapons. > > > So, does this match any of the classic game theory paradoxes? > > The situation seems to be deadlock. I have to say Turkey's three > requirements make sense. But I'm sure there are leaks. I think 3) for > example, is impossible to define .. it would include ISIS! > > -- Owen > > In case there is a login required, here's the article: > > > The Kurds continue fight without support > > > PrintCreate a hardcopy of this page > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/the-kurds-continue-fight-without-support/article_63fe5574-ae87-5186-a79f-b04a6e6b62d9.html?mode=print>Font > Size:Default font size > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/content/tncms/live/#>Larger font size > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/content/tncms/live/#> > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/content/tncms/live/#>1 > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/content/tncms/live/#> > > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/the-kurds-continue-fight-without-support/article_63fe5574-ae87-5186-a79f-b04a6e6b62d9.html?mode=image&photo=0> > > BILL STEWART > > *Understanding Your World* > > Posted: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:00 pm | *Updated: 11:49 pm, Fri Oct > 10, 2014.* > > Bill Stewart | 1 comment > <http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/the-kurds-continue-fight-without-support/article_63fe5574-ae87-5186-a79f-b04a6e6b62d9.html#user-comment-area> > > The struggle for the Kurdish stronghold of Kobani continues, with no end > in sight. Kobani, or Ayn al Arab, as it is called in Arabic, sits along the > border with Turkey, where Turkish armed forces maintain a powerful watch > but so far have refused to move. Turkey has declined to intervene, and > without such action, almost all observers say, the city will fall to the > murderous forces of the Islamic State, giving it firm control of a long > stretch of the Turkish-Syrian border. > > The collapse of Kobani has been delayed by repeated airstrikes carried out > by U.S. and coalition aircraft, but the fall of Kobani cannot be prevented > without the intervention of ground troops. And at this point in the > conflict, intervention means Turkey. The Turks, in the meantime, note that > America watched for two weeks as Kobani was shelled by the Islamic State > before the U.S. launched airstrikes. The Turks are not impressed. > > So why has Turkey hung back, when so much is at stake? The question is at > once difficult and complex. Turkey has some 70 million people, and more > than 10 million are Kurds, a Sunni Muslim minority whose homeland forms a > substantial part of eastern Turkey as well as parts of Iraq, Iran and > Syria. They were promised their own country in the wake of World War I and > the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, but it never materialized. > > Constant clashes, amounting to low-level warfare, have taken place between > Turks and Kurds in the past 90 years or so, and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein > killed tens of thousands of Kurds following the first Gulf War in 1991. > Nevertheless, a semiautonomous Kurdish state was established in > northeastern Iraq under Anglo-American air cover in the wake of the first > Gulf War. This Kurdish state has flourished and is everything the U.S. > would like to see happen in Iraq, of which Kurdistan is still legally a > part. The armed forces of Kurdistan are the Peshmerga, essentially a > guerrilla force but still the most effective fighting force facing the > Islamic State, also called ISIS. It is the Peshmerga that has stalled but > not stopped the ISIS forces, in large part because the Peshmerga is > outnumbered and outgunned. Moreover, many of the Kurdish fighters have long > been regarded by both Turkey and the U.S. as terrorists. > > Because of this contentious and often bloody history, Turkey is reluctant > to get involved in a struggle that would see Kurdish forces emerge > victorious, even though Turkey itself wishes to see the defeat of the > Islamic State and its army. Even more than defeating ISIS, however, Turkey > wants to see the end of Syria’s Bashar Assad. > > By defeating ISIS without first defeating the Syrian regime would, in > Turkey’s view, hand Assad a victory that Turkey is not about to > countenance. This is why Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has > insisted on three conditions before he commits his forces: The first is the > establishment of a buffer zone in Syria along the Turkish border, to which > many of the more than 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey could return. How > much of the 500-mile-long Turkish border would be included is not clear, > but presumably it would be a buffer zone at least several miles deep to be > effective. That, in turn, would require his second condition be met — a > no-fly zone over the buffer area. And finally, there would need to be > massive support for anti-Assad forces in Syria, something the U.S. has been > loathe to consider because of uncertainty over which Syrian rebel hands > would wind up with U.S. weapons. > > Turkey may be forgiven if it feels itself to be in the catbird’s seat. No > other country at this point is prepared to put troops on the ground, though > the Jordanians, caught in the middle as they are, could be tempted. The > U.S., too, might be tempted, because Washington is appalled at the idea of > an Islamic State. One deficiency in the airstrikes against ISIS is that > there is so little air-ground target coordination. This means airstrikes > are far less effective than they could be. > > It may well be that the U.S. is considering the covert deployment of > Special Forces to Iraq and Syria to remedy the situation But this is risky. > In the short run, troops on the ground means Turkish troops. Who else is > there? Next in line would be a revitalized Iraqi army, so badly let down by > former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. But that deployment would take > time. In the meantime, Turkish troops stand silently along their border. > What will it take for President Erdogan to give the order? Thousands of the > remaining residents in Kobani anxiously await his decision. As do we in > America. > > Bill Stewart writes about current affairs from Santa Fe. He is a former > U.S. Foreign Service officer and was a Time magazine correspondent. > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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