Re: [FRIAM] academic fields whose practitioners believe ...

[Steve Smith]

Nick - Not to pick nits or split hairs but can you be more precise (including an example) of what you mean by psychological concepts?  I'm a big fan of Lakoff and his theories of Embedded Cognition, and following his lead would be more tempted to use the term "metaphor", as I tend to think of "psychological concepts" as "concepts introduced into the vernacular by the discipline of psychology"  which I think is way off base if for no other reason than it it is way up the stack of layered metaphors.     I suspect that wasn't what you meant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition Steve,   I was, actually.  It was a great conversation.  It began with one of my favorite things which is taking seriously the fact that when physicists talk about particle behavior they often have recourse to psychological concepts.  My position is that, far from being a facon de parler pour communiquer avec des idiots, using psychological concepts in such a context is a precise way of talking about electrons if one understands psychological concepts properly.  We quickly metamorphosed into a discussion of the plusses and minuses of multi-culturalism.  It was wonderful the range of personal experience we were able to bring to bear on this subject  and the lack of guardedness with which we were able to explore it given our diverse history.   Still, I wish you (and roger) had been there.   It was the BEST.    Nick   Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/   From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:32 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] academic fields whose practitioners believe ...   On 1/16/15 8:46 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: Wow, Roger!   So, Philosophy is a field is one about which people believe that that “raw talent’  is necessary as opposed, say, to careful technique and diligent hard work.    I have been a philosophy camp follower for years and I NEVER would have said that.   Much as I love philosophy and have gotten benefit from philosophers, the one philosophy conference I went to was the worst collection of arrogant snots I have ever stood in a room with.  Seemed like a field in which “positioning” is EVERYTHING.   Come to FRIAM to talk talk about it. what with all those arrogant snots? <grin> I had a great convo with Wimberly at WedTech yesterday (which I also never make)...  but Friday's and Town and I hardly ever make all together in the same time and place... I'm sure you are having a great time as I type this.   N   Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/   From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] academic fields whose practitioners believe ...   Great article in Science this week:      http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6219/262.short   The more the practitioners of an academic field agree that "Being a top scholar of [discipline] requires a special aptitude that just can’t be taught",  the less successful women and african americans are in the field, as measured by the percentage of PhD's graduated.  Measured across all disciplines and in competition with three other hypotheses.   -- rec -- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com   ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

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