Senator John Thune recently issued this tweet.


You can argue that it's a denial of truth. But really, it's more like a
tribal call. He is saying "I hate Obama," and he will be applauded by those
who also "hate Obama." It's not a matter of truth.

Here's Krugman's post on it: http://goo.gl/6a4yue.
Here's my Google+ post: https://goo.gl/tt19Jz

-- Russ

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:11 AM glen <[email protected]> wrote:

> I enjoyed both the article and others' reactions to it, especially Grant's
> distinction between determined vs. determinability.  My own reaction was
> one slightly tinged with nausea.  Yes, it is lamentable when one's ideas,
> one's ideology, allow(s) one to deny "truth" (new evidence).  But it is
> that very same thing that allows one to lament the denial of truth.
>
> McIntyre seems to be just as willfully ignorant as those he accuses, by
> assuming
>
>   a) there _exists_ a singe, One True Truth, and
>   b) we (all of us or an in-group few of us) can approach that Truth.
>
> The point has been made most clearly by Orgel's 2nd Rule:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgel%27s_rule .  Why is it that we think
> that what we think is better (or more real, or more effective, or more ...
> whatever) than what _is_?  Why is it that we think so intently about what
> we think?  We're like a bunch of navel-gazing drug addicts, thinking
> intently about our own thoughts while the world moves on around us.
>
> There's a kind of circularity to McIntyre's lament (as well as other
> truthers who continually lament the "truthers" -- 9/11 or whatever, or the
> deniers that continually complain about the "deniers" -- climate change or
> whatever).  The most frustrating instance of this circularity is the
> escalation to absurdity exhibited by the ongoing co-evolution between
> "social justice warriors" and "political correctness freedom fighters" (for
> lack of a better term).  At some point, the frequency of the circular back
> and forth out paces the recovery time needed by my "outrage neurons".
>
> At some point, all the finger-pointing, all the childish "yes it is" "no
> it's not" "yes it is" back and forth makes me wish people like McIntyre
> would soften their own rhetoric just enough to exhibit more self-doubt and
> less other-doubt.  it would have been more palatable if, e.g., he'd ended
> the article with "I do my best, but often fail respect the truth." ... or
> something of that sort, rather than ending with the implication that he's
> _always_ capable of respecting the truth and knows full well that he always
> infallibly does, especially right now in this article.
>
> But, as Russ points out, other-doubt is profitable, while self-doubt is
> not.
>
> -glen
>
> On 06/08/2015 06:19 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > Philosophy haters do not read the linked article.  It mentions Andy
> Norman.  He is a member of the faculty at Carnegie Mellon, in the
> department where I used to work.  My daughter was a friend of his when they
> were in high school in the 1980s.  I am old.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > http://m.chronicle.com/article/The-Attack-on-Truth/230631/
>
> --
> ⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
> There's a chamber that should always be full
>
>
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