Really, Glen.  NOT in the DSM-IV or V?  Did you try "amuck".  That seems to be 
the culturally appropriate spelling for Malaysia, anyway.  It would be nice not 
to be wrong about everything. 

n

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
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From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of glen
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Running amok - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Do you mean the Quail Run golf course, there ... in the desert? 8^)  If so, I 
can't imagine any 2 people in that changing room there, have it so "bad".  I 
feel kinda the same way about the ... [cough] ... militia members at Malheur.  
How bad can it be if these Yeehawdists have plenty of free time and $$ for gas, 
guns, and such to seize and squat?  I know some people who have it "bad" and 
they certainly don't have that level of resources available to them.  It 
reminds me of the Tea Party people, <stereotype> overweight with their lawn 
furniture and misspelled signs</stereotype>.  What, precisely, do these people 
have to complain about?

But that makes the issue decidely _on_ topic, I think.  From the DSM 5, which 
doesn't seem to contain "amok":

> 1. Cultural syndrome is a cluster or group of co-occurring, relatively 
> invariant symptoms found in a specific cultural group, community, or 
> context (e.g., ataque de nervios). The syndrome may or may not be 
> recognized as an illness within the culture (e.g., it might be labeled 
> in various ways), but such cultural patterns of distress and features of 
> illness may nevertheless be recognizable by an outside observer.
>
> 2. Cultural idiom of distress is a linguistic term, phrase, or way of 
> talking about suffering among individuals of a cultural group (e.g., 
> similar ethnicity and religion) referring to shared concepts of 
> pathology and ways of expressing, communicating, or naming es­ sential 
> features of distress (e.g., kufiingisisa). An idiom of distress need 
> not be associated with specific symptoms, syndromes, or perceived 
> causes. It may be used to convey a wide range of discomfort, including 
> everyday experiences, subclinical conditions, or suffering due to 
> social circumstances rather than mental disorders. For example, most cultures 
> have common bodily idioms of distress used to express a wide range of suf­ 
> fering and concerns.
>
> 3. Cultural explanation or perceived cause is a label, attribution, or 
> feature of an explanatory model that provides a culturally conceived 
> etiology or cause for symptoms, illness, or distress (e.g., maladi 
> moun). Causal explanations may be salient features of folk classi­ fications 
> of disease used by laypersons or healers.




On 01/04/2016 10:23 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Slightly off-topic, but the mention of Malheur reminded me of a conversation 
> in the men's changing room yesterday at Quail Run.
>
> The Big Short started the discussion, and one guy said ".. but you can't 
> trust anybody anymore, and the government is worst of all! Why aren't most of 
> the bankers who caused the Financial Crisis in jail?".
>
> This prompted another guy to say: "the only honest guys running for president 
> are Trump and Sanders". Trump? Then "Hillary is in the banks pockets just 
> like the rest."
>
> Well, true .. and why *aren't* the bankers in big trouble rather than 
> continuing to be too big to fail and building even more risky financial 
> stunts? As far as I know, only one banker is in jail and it is in Europe, not 
> the US.
>
> And these weren't idiots, just folks angry at just how bad things are .. just 
> like the Rancher's Rights at Malheur.
>
> Amok may be just what voters are about to be. It isn't populism, exactly .. 
> its just plain mad and may have surprising "uprisings" as a result.

--
⇔ glen

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