On 03/04/2016 10:27 AM, Russ Abbott wrote:
I must have missed the message where you talked about the 3-tuple and don't understand what you mean that a sign is one of 3 objects in a 3-tuple and why it matters. Nick talked about a sign; I was distinguishing a sign from its referent -- which you do too. I also said the reference is often a mental construct. I'm not sure how your comment relates to that framework.
This is the 1st time I've mentioned the 3-tuple. Sorry. It was my guess at Nick's use of the word "sign". It relates to "mental constructs" at least because you have to place the "mental construct" in one of the 3 types: referent, sign, interpreter. I gave mathematical examples because you expressed confusion over what Nick might have meant by "They are signs that stand in a rigorous, systematic, and extensively confirmed way for a vast collection of mathematical relationships." I presume you intend to put "mental constructs" in the interpreter category, but maybe not. They could be in any category. For example, the mental construct I have of cat-like can be a sign for a particular image of one of my cats (yes, I have more than one, unfortunately). And the interpreter is the mental construct(s) I use to organize the house (feeding times, expected behaviors, etc.) with respect to those cats. -- ⇔ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
