Glen -

As usual, I like the way you think, even if I might not agree with you!

I think that Mass Surveillance (caps or not) is crafted (among other things) *to* silence many voices, but as you so aptly point out, it depends on our ability to be intimidated (if not specifically to "conform" as you suggest).

I have friends/colleagues in Ukraine who state boldly that "they" collectively eliminated bribery by collectively refusing to give bribes... that it took about a year of a mass uprising of people who simply accepted that they could not get much if anything done in the government bureaucracy for about a year while they starved out the officials who were thriving on bribery.

On the original topic, I know of many very well educated, well informed people (not unlike most of us on this list) who curb their speech in very awkward and strange ways out of fear that they are being "surveilled" and that one of their fairly benign yet counter-culture opinions or ideas will be held against them.

I agree with the idea that our willingness to conform to the corruption (of any kind) contributes to the problem quite directly. Too many people respond to this idea as a form of "blame the victim" but I think it is much more than that.

Carry on,
 - Steve


On 03/29/2016 11:05 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
Thought you guys would be interested in this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/03/28/mass-surveillance-silences-minority-opinions-according-to-study/

Is it right to say that mass surveillance _causes_ the silencing? It seems to me that our tendency to conform is the cause. Then the cause[s] of that tendency [is|are] probably occult, where some will yap about things like group selection and others about ontogeny (education, demographics, etc). I assume that various generations vary in their tendency to conform. (We just watched Experimenter the other night: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3726704/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 , which suggests it's robust across lots of conditions.) So, perhaps the relationship between (recognition of) mass surveillance and self-censorship is simply a symptom of a deeper cause.



============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Reply via email to