The intriguing thing to me is the evidence for coercion and religion co-evolving. Control mechanisms over a large population aren’t really feasible without manipulation. The violence is a tool to serve that purpose, but not the main instrument, authoritarianism. It must be that it takes some time to figure out how best to make people serve an imaginary master ,and chopping off some heads is an effective catalyst to get them thinking in the right direction.
From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:10 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Here's to the 1%! Try Germany and the Holocaust in WWII. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:55 AM, cody dooderson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: My research on this subject is limited to reading the Lord of the Flies in sixth grade, but are there any parallels to modern mass incarceration? Cody Smith On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It reminds me of the Aztec and Roman empires who sacrificed and crucified people. In the Near East some groups like the Phoenicians even sacrificed children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice I'm not aware of any human sacrifice in Ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia. The Egyptians practiced of course sacrifice for the gods and the dead in form of food. One could say sacrifices were an early form of taxes. Jochen Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: glen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 4/5/16 17:13 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Here's to the 1%! I couldn't help but be reminded of the "72 virgins" martyr meme in Jihad, as well as our own military (where it seems soldiers tend to be working class and officers tend to be middle-upper class) when I read this part: > Ethnographic descriptions highlight that the sacrificial victims were > typically of low social status, such as slaves, and the instigators were of > high social status, such as priests and chiefs 3,4,27 . Religious exaltation and economic relief might produce a pretty powerful combination for manipulating people into "taking one for the team". On 04/05/2016 05:03 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Thanks, Marcus, now we know how to get things sorted out here on FRIAM, > > -- rec -- > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Marcus Daniels > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > http://goo.gl/OcUVLV -- -- ⊥ glen ⊥ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> mobile: (303) 859-5609 skype: merle.lelfkoff2
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