The author of that article seems scared of change. He was scared of the crazy hippies, and now he's scared of voting online. He does make some good points. I agree that smart refrigerators are really just more complicated dumb refrigerators. I disagree with his view on digital democracy. It is difficult to imagine a digital redesign of democracy that can be worse than the primary, caucus, 2 party, democratic-republic system we a are currently spectating.
Cody Smith On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, political parties are not government, they are patronage > organizations, and in poorer states such as ours the party faithful fall > all over themselves with way too early and ill-informed endorsements just > to please those who might maybe mobilize future electoral resources on > their behalf. Late or more well considered endorsements, well then maybe > not so much. This weekend The Party is coming to visit; observe the > groveling. > > Hey, I'm not cynical. > > But I'm a little kid in liking big trucks and construction. I'll drive > Cerrillos every day just to see what's going on. Cruise-o-tainment. > > But, back to the article, one of the points is that many of the "new > ideas" with regard to cities are more or less clever marketing tropes, and > that buying into them inadvertently can reinforce the very processes they > seem to try to overthrow. Maybe that's the case, maybe not. We should > consider.... > > Best of luck with the pizza. > > Carl > > > On 4/6/16 12:58 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > > Arguable THE issue tech in NM is this: > Oh you need/want fast internet? screw you take this DSL speed instead! > Oh you just want go to the store and get some pizza? Screw you here's some > rode construction, plus some dick two inches from your rear bumper instead! > > Those are the kinds of crap that's wrong. end of story. > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Gillian Densmore < > <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: > >> Great find carl! >> >> MY issue is that all this crap is overly complicated. I just want it to >> be both easy, and fun to do things. >> >> lol that article is great but to many fancy words just to say yeah things >> these days are to complicated, and I haven't a clue why. >> Lets see today alone I'm trying out a few different weby-web page makers >> because I ran into a gocha with wordpress it's kind of not all that simple >> to make small changes to a wordpress theme. I duno I don't think its as >> simple as it could be. On the other hand lots of people use it, and >> suposedly Automatix said: uh yeah does this suck, lets try to fix it. >> >> My Cellphone has off and on reception. (Kind of the nature of the beast >> with hills and vallies and no antenta's for a ways. My internet sucks , the >> place I use to try out some options is ludicrously slow. However The >> options are Affordable or Comcast. I mention all this because I am puzzled >> Why the heck are these basic things even a issue oO >> The way I see it is this: bad news is NM failed. End of story. >> Politicians just pointing fingers epically failed as well. End of story. >> The good news is it seems like many of the day to day issues can be >> solved, NM has a some kind of nice village charm. >> >> Personally I've had about enough of people saying john has coodies, Fred >> has a large eyebrow, Sally's smile is to big or what ever silly things they >> say, use to many fancy words just to say Oy hey lets see if X can be done >> better, and not make it so darn complicated. >> >> The way I see it the questions should be limited as much as possible: >> Does it work? and is it simple to do or use?, and useful and mabie even >> kind fun and cool to do or use? these should be about the only questions at >> least as far as I'm concerned- lol but hey what do I know. ^_^ >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Merle Lefkoff < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Carl. Don't have to tell you how much this resonated with our >>> work! >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Carl < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> An inspired rant possibly of interest to FRIAM denizens; found the link >>>> through Bruce Sterling. >>>> >>>> http://amsterdamalternative.nl/articles/1890 >>>> >>>> Can't say I disagree. Mainly since the sort of things he's critiquing >>>> are increasingly coming our way and any sort of expanded perspective may be >>>> useful. >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>>> to unsubscribe <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> >>>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. >>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy >>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA >>> [email protected] >>> mobile: (303) 859-5609 <%28303%29%20859-5609> >>> skype: merle.lelfkoff2 >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> >> >> > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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