I don't understand everything you said but there seems to be a lot of anger in the air. So you would consider voting for Trump? My impression is that the old "American Dream" seems to be broken. No health care system can indeed fix a fast food culture which makes people sick because they consume overpriced food imitation instead of real food. No taxes seem to be able to fix the screaming injustice of unlimited capitalism either. If the super rich billionaires like Charles Koch, Mark Cuban or Mike Bloomberg would share a bit of their extraordinary wealth, then ordinary people would certainly have to suffer less. Higher taxes for the super rich, better health care and stronger rules for corporations that make you sick would probably be a first step towards more justice. Trump's politics is not the way to any plausible solution from an European point of view. I fear that a narcissistic personality will lead to an exaggerated collective narcissism which is indistinguishable from fascism, racism, or similar forms of political mistakes. Is the situation in Santa Fe really so bad? I thought Owen earns well? -Jochen
-------- Original message --------From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected]> Date: 8/1/16 17:23 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings Hmmm well I apear to be the groups simple-person-type. Sure having some guesses as to why people are frankly snapping could be handy. I suspect as a simple-ol'fation kind of Countery-Bumpkinish type. These people had some frustrations that didn't get met. It possibly sat in there head while doing day to day routines and they just wanted (ThisThingHere). I think the other StarShip in the room is that America is doing a realy bad job of admitting that people want a rich, fun and fulling life. That we are meant to do things as a group and team for the most part.That's totally cool What is not so cool is ignoring people offering or needing ThingHere. Or just being Aholes. That'll get people to snap. Seems like that's happening. I hope things improve and hold out some hope they can and will. I face this day to day I am on benifits. I get told quite a bit that 'your a freeloader ' or 'No (we the powers that be don't think) you deserve better benefits..' And none of them has had to live on about 70-80USD a week. That kind of stress day in day out has a nasty way if instilling an eneromous physical and mental drain no man woman or child should ever deel with. It can and will eat at you if you are not careful. Hell I'm even seeing some of the physical issues to that myself. Enormous weight issues. Chronic discomforts. Migraines. Eetc. A Normal healthy systems would never do that to anyone. Then in my case there's the mentall tolls to: Self dbout, depression, anxiety, mental energy, Staying clear and postive about wanting to be back to the happy-go-lucky me, and in my case seriusly considering moving to either a new state possibly countery. People snapping meens the group didn't keep it's promise. So they then snapped. We can guess what went through there heads and why, If they didn't get the warmth, food, support, can do etc they needed then yeah they'll snap somehow. In my case I it was beyond luck and some part of me saying 'Hell no-dude this is NOT you you do to give a damn, and you are to full of lite' when I almost snapped my self because I didn't feel as though and still don't that my needs and wants get met all that well.I don't know how the hell I kept myself from getting worse. Fam has seen me through all manner of stages in my life. lol. But others don't have that.If they don't get there needs and wants met. they'll snap. Here's a common scenario 'WHat do you meen you just want some warm clothes?' , 'How dare you say you're down on your luck and need some food- that's entitlement and we don't give out free stuff!'That was a almost word for word that I have burned into my head at a this place called SpiritLink several years ago when some persons house burned down and they had to have a place to live. Now imagine beging told that kind of crap while doing a demeaning process of getting "Wellfare" so as you might pull yourself up? Over and over and over and over again. In my case: "Yeah I just need a check up" (to LOTS) of doctors offices "Oh don't take your kind" (what do you meen I told one) "Oh we don't except BluCross from 'Obama care' (sigh) "He yeah do you guys offer coaching services? and programs so I can get my masters?" (The lady on the phone responded came across as laughing)I guess I didn't need to go to that program. I am lucky I have that I've been through enough Bullshit to somewhat shrug off that kind of aholery. If America expects to get anyplace that has got to end. Anyway I guess i'm a pragmatist. Aholery, and Taint hasn't gotten America anyplace but a bunch of people snapping. That is not good or healthy. I myself have said quite a few times I hope for a future in the world where everyone is full if life, and light where every man woman and child can experience pure unbridled bliss, joy and mirth,and live a full wonderul life full of liteSoon as that happens I suspect things will imrpove enormously, here and across the globe.^_^ Being on the recieving end of (some of) the Aholery they might have recieved I thought it might be usefull for this group to see one of there own deels day in and out with the rediclous issues some of those people may have dealt with. On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Tom Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, and it also could explain Trump's "verbal violence." =================================== Tom Johnson - Inst. for Analytic Journalism Santa Fe, NM SPJ Region 9 Director [email protected] 505-473-9646 =================================== On Aug 1, 2016 2:53 AM, "Jochen Fromm" <[email protected]> wrote: Recently there has been an increasing number of rampage killings and suicide attacks in Europe and America. One theory says that rampage killings are related to pathological narcissism. The perpetrators are often offended narcissistic outsiders who want to restore their crippled sense of self-worth by an act of ultimate violence. Usually they announce their terror acts on social media sites. I kill, therefore I am. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/culture-shrink/201510/american-narcissism-and-mass-shooters According to this Psychology Today article, many of the recent rampage killings were a malignant form of narcissism, where the perpetrators had to satisfy their "need for revenge…for undoing a hurt by whatever means… by giving their pain to others and in doing so build up the remnants of their self-worth through violence". What do you think about this theory? Does it make sense? -J. Sent from my Tricorder ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
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