Well, that confirms that it is more like a layered system, even if it's simply 
self-reported or all in the diagnoser's head.  The last 2 sentences of 
Kernberg's description directly imply constructive causation.  But regardless 
of any competence with or understanding of this particular domain, when we're 
talking about whether Trump already had the traits at age so-and-so before 
being sent to military school, and whether his subsequent experiences 
exacerbated the problem ... and (like the skeptical blog entry I posted) 
whether the traits are more heavily context-depenent, we're fundamentally 
considering multi-layered explanations.

On 01/20/2017 04:31 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> "What Frank says below is of type (1).  What Jochen (and others) have talked 
> about before (childhood experiences, etc.) is more like type (2)."
> 
> Type 2?  The authentic selfhood of the child is not authenticated by the 
> parent(s).  According to psycoanalyst Otto Kernberg:
> 
> "Presenting excessive self-absorption usually coinciding with a superficially 
> smooth and effective social adaptation, by with serious distortions in their 
> internal relationships with other people. They present various combinations 
> of intense ambitiousness, grandiose fantasies, feelings of inferiority, 
> overdepedence on external admiration and acclaim.  Along with feelings of 
> boredom and emptiness, and continuous search for gratification of strivings 
> for brilliance, wealth, power and beauty, there are serious deficiencies in 
> their capacity to love and to be concerned about others.  This lack of 
> capacity for empathic understanding of others often comes as a surprise 
> considering their superficially appropriate social adjustment."
> 
> As for a detailed elucidation of causes, you have to read a highly technical 
> book such as Kohut.


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☣ glen

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