Ah, here's a way to throw sand in the gears:
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512096744/as-trump-reboots-pipeline-expansion-an-unexpected-delay-emerges The FERC has to approve interstate pipelines and energy transfer infrastructure. It was down to 3 of 5 members when Trump elevated one of the existing members to be the new chair, so one of the other members promptly resigned. (in a snit? can't tell). The commission no longer has a quorum to do its business, and it could take months to get a new member appointed and approved by the senate. Who knows how long it could take if someone put their mind to it. I wonder how many other federal commissions might be similarly poised to grind to a halt? -- rec -- On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote: > https://x.company/loon/ > > -- rec -- > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't have much experience with the GEO providers, e.g. Hughes, but I >> seem to remember that the minimum latency of about a quarter second round >> trip imposed by the speed of light makes them very unpleasant to use for >> VOIP, otherwise they are okay. Still, fiber is so much cheaper up until the >> "last mile" (in urban areas), which more or less equates with the "last ten >> miles" in rural areas. I have the impression that a lot of highways have >> fiber optic along them, as the easements are already in place and they >> connect urban areas capable of using the bandwidth from the fiber. But many >> rural roads extend for many miles or tens of miles, with a few houses >> widely scattered along them, so the cost of fiber is harder to justify >> there. On flat land, microwave works very well with little investment in >> towers, but the hillier the land is, the more towers and repeaters are >> necessary. So something like Facebook's drone idea seems quite attractive: >> use the drones as if they were extremely high towers, capable of relaying >> signal from fiber optic connections along the highways down to those widely >> scattered rural houses. One of the problems is keeping the antennas >> aligned, since the airfoil-design drones need to keep moving to stay in the >> air. I wonder if they have looked at using helium balloons for the lift, >> and only use drone technology to stabilize them. That should work if the >> wind is minimal at extremely high altitudes. >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps a hybrid GEO/LEO could be made? The bandwidths are not bad for >>> the existing satellite internet solutions. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gary >>> Schiltz >>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 11:55 AM >>> >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] How we can make the COUNTRY great again >>> >>> >>> >>> That's cool, but this type of low earth orbit (LEO) satellites seem to >>> me more sutible for ubiquitous low bandwidth communication, e.g. satellite >>> phones. I don't know how well it would scale - for example, I doubt that >>> millions of people could simultaneously get their full megabit from a small >>> LEO constellation. One alternative that looks intriguing to me is >>> Facebook's Aquila drone, that flies at about 20km altitude - still low >>> enough for microwave broadband communication, but high enough to avoid >>> commercial air traffic. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Space X just launched the first 10 (of 70) of Iridium NEXT low-earth >>> satellites. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.iridium.com/company/industryleadership/iridiumcertus >>> >>> >>> >>> It’s not high bandwidth (about a 1MB/sec), but should be lower latency >>> than HughesNet, Wildblue, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Nick Thompson < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Date: *Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:13 AM >>> *To: *'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] How we can make the COUNTRY great again >>> >>> >>> >>> No BroadBand at my farm in Central Massachusetts. Awaiting Gary’s >>> International Assistance. Remember a few years back when Venezuela was >>> supplying cut-rate oil to low income people in New England? >>> >>> >>> >>> Just Sayin’ >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> Nicholas S. Thompson >>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >>> >>> Clark University >>> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gary >>> Schiltz >>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:43 AM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] How we can make the COUNTRY great again >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been working here in Ecuador to provide internet access to poorly >>> served areas, and it is a challenge, albiet not an insurmountable one. >>> Wireless technology from smallish companies like Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, and >>> Mimosa to name a few, is pretty inexpensive, even here where import duties >>> are high. The big challenge where I'm working is getting line-of-sight >>> between nodes, where there is a lot of dense forest cover over 20 meters >>> high. >>> >>> >>> >>> One thing that I found interesting in the article that Jochen linked to >>> is that the US FCC defines broadband as 25mbps down / 3mbps up. Maybe I'm >>> just used to it, but I find about 2up/1down plenty even for video >>> streaming. More is always better, of course :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Santa Fe, and New Mexico in general, is interesting in that regard. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> But then there is a lot of the countryside that is left out of this. I >>> really like the idea of making the Country(side) important. 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