I think I anticipated your backhanded strike. >8^D  I did this with my (badly 
mangled) reference to (and skepticism about) the holographic principle ... or 
behaviorism in psychology ... or hidden markov models ... or state space 
reconstruction methods ... or by any of a huge number of other symbols.

A many to one projection from a complicated space to a simple space 
_facilitates_ shared delusion because it makes the complicated things _seem_ 
similar even though they're not.  That is what explains your shared delusions 
like Shazaam.  It's a mistake to infer that the complicated spaces (the deluded 
people's minds/brains/bodies/culture) are the same just because their 
projections (the things they say and do) are the same.

Although you're invocation of Occam's razor seems appropriate, your assertion 
(similarities in the low dimension space are caused by similarities in the high 
dimension space) is not the simplest explanation at all.  The simplest 
explanation is the one identified in that paper about the fractal dimension of 
Rorcshach blots (still on topic!) and that identified by Lakoff about Trump's 
language.  A medium with low dimension allows the high dimension participants 
to "fill in the gaps".


On 02/23/2017 06:58 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> I think Robert Wall is nudging close to an idea that he failed to adequately 
> clarify but you may have nailed it while trying to deny it (this I call a 
> backhanded strike). Last week there was a strange article about groups of 
> people having the same memory that have no contact with each other. That 
> shared memory was in fact  demonstrably false. It was regarding a 
> misperceived memory of a TV show called Shazaam and some comedian called 
> Sinbad... My mind retains utter garbage sometimes.
> 
> I never saw it but then it never actually happened. The investigators 
> explained that so many of the false memory components overlapped reality
> that the subjects truly believed some occurrence that was categorically 
> disproved. So a society may well share memories of fictional events and act 
> on delusions ie mobs.

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␦glen?

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