Back in the Usenet days, people would prefix remarks like that as "Ob 
complexity"  to pacify the relevant people.

One example in the news of adaptive criminality are churches that give 
sanctuary to individuals now facing deportation.   Ob buzzword:   These agents 
may be symmetry breaking!

Marcus

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> On May 24, 2017, at 8:51 AM, glen ☣ <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well sure, TANSTAAFL.  But, especially given Owen's (and apparently 
> Stephen's) loaded question "What is complexity?", to write it all off as 
> "tools don't imply political motives" is, itself, a loaded answer.  We have 
> overwhelming evidence that complexity is bound up with robustness through 
> mechanisms for phenomena like scale-free, fractal, far from equilibrium, etc. 
>  And that clearly implies that an earnest application of a tool (from hammers 
> to blockchains), one that actually tries to solve problems rather than 
> extract wealth for a sub-group, should make an attempt to reify those 
> phenomena.
> 
> So, as I suggested in the exploit post: "get ready for blockchain" also means 
> "get ready for exploitative tactics with and around blockchain tech."  That 
> article Tom posted focused exclusively on the happy-go-lucky, hyperbolic, 
> utopian dream, ignoring the nightmare that lurks beneath.
> 
>> On 05/23/2017 02:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> The concept of a secure distributed ledger (e.g. blockchain) doesn't itself 
>> really imply a political motive.   
> 
> -- 
> ☣ glen
> 
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