BTW
I am (mostly) of the opinion (school of thought) that follows Lakoff and
Johnson's premises from "Metaphors we Live by" (1980) where most
language and thought involves metaphor. I think Lakoff revisits this
strongly from another direction with Nunez in "Where Mathematics Comes
From/the Embodiment of Mind".
Previous to and outside of this school of thought, many/most seem think
of metaphor as no more than a flowery linguistic construct mostly
reserved for poetry and other imagistic writing?
Can you (Glen) state your position on the utility or place of metaphor
in your world-view? We might (once again) be bashing around in
different wings of Borges' "Library of Babel" (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel )
- Sieve
On 6/12/17 11:01 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
Glen -
I always appreciate your corrections. You are naturally the only one
who really knows what you meant when you brought it up. I thought I
remembered that you invoked the onion and it's layers to try to
explain your distinction between levels and layers and the utility of
the same in the discussion of Complexity Science.
I know how to slice onions with a knife, I've even been known to crush
small ones like a garlic clove, and have even run them through a
blender for various culinary purposes, but in this discussion, I can't
think why we would have been talking about an onion if not as the
source domain for a metaphor. Why were we talking about an onion? I
remember a discursion into or near the embryological implications of
how onions form their layers?
- Steve
On 6/12/17 10:45 AM, glen ☣ wrote:
Just to clarify, no, that's not at all what I did. I did not propose
onion as a source and layer as a target. That completely misses my
point. An onion is a thing that can be sliced up, thought about,
analyzed, by various different methods. No metaphor involved. This
tendency to see metaphors everywhere is a strange disease we're
inflicted with. 8^)
On 06/12/2017 09:39 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
In the example at hand, Glen invoked "an Onion" as the /source/
domain in a metaphor to try to understand the more general and
abstract target domain of /layer/. Other /source/ domains
(deposition layers, skin, geology) were offered as well to offer
conceptual parallax on this.
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