NST -

I still contend that a more dominant effect is not the "lost water" but the apples/oranges of *filling* by 8oz cups and *drinking* by 10-16 oz cups...

Just sayin'

- SAS

On 9/20/17 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip. I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>

*From:*Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been...

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the
    list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

    Gil -

        I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do
        (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling
        system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer
        to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something
        closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast,
        the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

     - Steve

    PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to
    find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some
    mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

    On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

        Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the
        steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in
        the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be
        something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

        On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it
            drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by
            they can have a bit as well.

            But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

            Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets
            to the Kareff(sp)? oO

            I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^


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