Oh, Well, if that's how you understand qualia, we are blood brothers in this 
enterprise.  

But I don't think that's how others on this list -- indeed, most other people 
-- understand qualia.  

Let's see what they say.  Frank?  Bruce?  

David?  How do you understand qualia. 

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


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From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:36 PM
To: FriAM <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

But, really, all you're doing is dickering about the definition.  It doesn't 
make me grumpy at all.  In fact, I can agree wholeheartedly with you and still 
believe in qualia, because what you describe *is* what the word means: 
self-perception. No amount of sophist-icated, hermeneutics will make it useful, 
here.

But what's physical and for which falsifiable hypotheses can be formulated is 
*how* plants sense and react versus how animals sense and react.  So, again, if 
we can talk about *that*, then we might make progress to whether or not 
non-human animals psychologize.

On 09/17/2018 03:09 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> Gee.  I guess I don’t believe in qualia.


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