Oh, Glen, 

That "scout" was talking to the who-o-o-le list.

Answering a question with a question is the old psychologist's trick, a fair 
tactic when you think the respondent, like the slave boy, already contains the 
answer within him.  But this slave-boy, this scout, whatever, don't know 
nuthin'.  All he knows is that he didn't expect THAT!  Not THEN!  

I wish Lee would answer.  I took his point to be that you-guys (and you 
==>are<== all guys) are so immersed in emergence (emerged in immersance?) that 
you have lost sight of it.  

Wolfram wrote the book on emergence, but he did not translate it for the 
defrocked English major.  

Glen, your manners are impeccable.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:52 AM
To: FriAM <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

I know you directed the post to Dave. Obviously, you weren't talking to me. 8^) 
But I will again demonstrate my lack of manners and interrupt, anyway.

It's common to denigrate those who answer questions with questions. But my 
response to the scout would be: "Well, what did you EXPECT to happen?"

Give a man a fish ... yadda yadda.

On 5/5/19 10:53 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> So, imagine yourself talking to a group of boy (girl-) scouts.   You have 
> just demonstrated to them the phenomenon of Cellular Automaton #30 (or 
> whatever) bursting into seething dog vomit at iteration 10,601 (or whatever) 
> (or bursting out of seething dog vomit into grand pyramids of pyramids, ad 
> infinitum, what*/EVER!/*).  One of the scouts asks, “Professor Dave, why did 
> that happen then?”  And once you have explained that to them, please explain 
> to them how that explanation is not an adequate explanation of consciousness.

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