But doesn't it mean that, since no experience will ever *fully prove out*, that 
a fully proved out experience is something we will "never truly grasp"? Doesn't 
the provisionality imply that *all* experience is illusory? And, then, if there 
is such a thing as a "fully proved out experience", then you're back to 2 
things not fully proved out vs. fully proved out?

Of course, my point goes back to scale ... again ... there's a little proved 
out, a medium amount of proved out, and a lot proved out. But I don't want to 
put words in your mouth. 8^)

On 12/6/19 11:49 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> */both equally illusory./*
> 
> I think “illusory” is used here, in your way, not in the way I would use it, 
> but to refer to the world that truly is but which we an never truly grasp.  
> I.e., dualistically.  For me, an illusion is just an experience that does not 
> prove out.  I arrive at my coffee house three days in a row and there is a 
> “day old” old-fashioned plain donut available for purchase at half price.  I 
> experience that “donut at 4” is something I can count on.  That turns out not 
> to be the case because, another customer starts coming in at 3.59 and 
> commandeering all the donuts.  My experience was illusory.  Or, think flips 
> of a coin.  You flip a coin 7 times heads and you come to the conclusion that 
> the coin is biased.  However, you flip it a thousand times more and its 
> behavior over the 1007 flips is consistent with randomness.  You come to the 
> conclusion that the bias was probably an illusion. 
> 
> My understanding of illusory is probabilistic and provisional. 

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