I think some people are getting in the habit of using "he" to mean "The Idiot" to avoid 1) NSA keyword searches and 2) to generally to avoid recognizing his brand.
Marcus ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:13 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death I thought he was referring to Trump. Am I missing something? --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:09 AM Michel Bloch <mbl...@mountvernon.fr<mailto:mbl...@mountvernon.fr>> wrote: I don’t if Professor Raoult is right or not, but, for him, the word « idiot » is inappropriate, you might use “character » or “unusual” or “bizarre”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult#Citations Amicalement Michel Bloch http://mountvernon.fr/ 06 80 57 3398 De : Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> De la part de Steven A Smith Envoyé : mardi 24 mars 2020 16:27 À : friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> Objet : Re: [FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death On 3/24/20 8:56 AM, Prof David West wrote: France is pushing chloroquine hard. A FriAMer has relatives there. Just because the first person that told people about this was an idiot does not make the information wrong. He was far from the first, just the loudest/brashest. He *would* have us believe that he personally *discovered* this off-label use... but that IS how he rolls.. no surprises. There is a presumed responsibility when you have a megaphone. But that is one of the broken norms for worse (and better). The unintended consequences of his mass-tweet/news-conference/rally announcements are sweeping. I do not believe he *intended* to cause a slam on the chloroquine supply chain, nor for self-described self-reliant folks like the AZ couple to run out and make a small/obvious but terminal mistake. davew On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote: Elon Musk had a serious brush with malaria about 20 years ago, and is evidently one of the insistent sources pushing for chloroquine. Sorry, I don’t have references. —Barry On 24 Mar 2020, at 0:42, Steven A Smith wrote: My first reaction to this was: THANK YOU DEAR LEADER! https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus But, I don't know if we can attribute this kind of accident to POTUS45 or not... my gut instinct is that his constant raving about it is what triggered these people to give it a whirl. I have one toe in the survivalist/prepper community and they are known for aquiring and stockpiling antibiotics sold for fish/aquariums. All the major human antibiotics have fish equivalents FishMox and FishFlox for example. There is much discussion/lore/wisdom in that community around which products/sources are actually pharmaceutical-grade and honest-dosage and well-regulated. I didn't know of chloroquine phosphate or it's use... they are saying "cleaning" but I think they mean disinfecting. It sounds to me that the problem was dosage, not contamination, but the product they used may have been cut or mixed with something toxic to humans. I've a friend who lived in Ghana for years with Peace Corps who contracted malaria and was medicated with one of the chloroquine drugs. He understood then (25 years ago) that it was the third world's "silver-bullet" and in his case it turned his symptoms around (life-threatening) in hours (on an IV).... his response to this prescription-from-POTUS is that the death rate in the third world could spike if the first world diverts their supply (probably coming from China?) abruptly for our own use. I also heard that patients depending on these chloroquines in the first world are already finding that the supplies are drying up and many cannot get their usual refills. Doh! ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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